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Fabio's Seismics
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On 9/29/2005 Chuck Gill
wrote in from
United States
(192.249.nnn.nnn)
Loctite.
Also, newer Seismics have a spring clip on the end of the pivot bolt which will prevent the nut from backing off. I would presume this may be a retrofittable kind of thing.
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Loaded and Seismics
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On 9/29/2005 astrokel
wrote in from
United States
(67.100.nnn.nnn)
Has anyone out there tried Seismics on a Vanguard? Just wondering if the thing would get too bouncy/reactive or if it would be a goo thing to have all that energy stored in both the board AND the trucks. Thanks!
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Problems with Seismic
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On 9/29/2005
Fabio
wrote in from
United States
(68.142.nnn.nnn)
I’m writing from Miami. I get a set of 155 seismic trucks which I love it. There are good for carving, pumping and everything related with turns, but I have problems with the slides. I do skateboard in the parking garage buildings (10-12 FLOORS) and every single time that I go down from the last floor to the first doing all kind of slides and sharp turns my trucks get complete lose (the center pivot pin get so lose that it end holding the nut on the last turn of it) How can I solve this problem, all my friends have Randalls and they never adjust theirs truck not even after a night with riding 80 floors in total……
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High or Low
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On 9/29/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
I've had problems with stability at speed with low trucks, even with very slow turning geometry. I think that the problem stems from the fact that "going low" means that, compared to high truck with the same steering angle, you are positioning the axle closer, closer, and closer to the pivot cup. A full size truck acts like a hinge, in that the hanger pivots in the pivot cup area, and drapes the cushion seats over the cushions. This puts a fair amount of pressure down onto the cushions, which aids in stability.
I look at the wheel-truck-board relationship as it pertains to wheelbite like this:
1. I have big wheels
2. I want loose trucks
3. I need clearance
If I want a low deck and I have low trucks, I have to make a special board design so the wheels won't rub.
If I want a low deck and I have high trucks, I have to make a special board design so the the wheels won't rub.
Either way (high trucks or low), I have to design the board for the ride height and for the wheel clearance. Most of the guys who like low CG decks have made designs that work great the existing truck heights by making drop decks, drop-through decks, routed decks, or combinations of the three. They get the stability of a bigger truck, the deck height that they want, and there is no wheelbite. Thay've also learned to make them very strong. When you have a 97mm wheel, no truck can be low enough to put the deck that low.
I like the idea of a low truck, but I'd have to start designing low-speed boards that would only work well with low trucks. For now, I'm a big wheel / big truck kind of guy, and I use risers sparingly.
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squashed down
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On 9/29/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
the tone of that phraze is sort of negative, as if it's a bad thing. How about stretched out? most trucks are "stretched out" to make room for the wheels, on a cut away dh board you don't need to stretch a truck out, those trucks seem intended to be race trucks. When there's a tall truck and you alter the board set up to drop things,i.e drop through or(an extreme example) landyahcts, then you create an unusual relationship between the feet of the rider and the pivoting point of the truck, you end up under the pivot, or maybe just to close, i'm not exactly sure, but i feel like i prefer to be as low as possible but still on top of the trucks.
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Well.....
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On 9/28/2005 bean-a-reano
wrote in from
United States
(216.89.nnn.nnn)
well, Tie-dye I didn't mention a damn thing about risers.
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no risers
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On 9/28/2005 Ty-guy
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
Well bean, you wouldn't need risers if they were lower because of the general shape of most speed boards. Most speed boards have big cutouts to alow for big wheels and such.
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Tall/Short
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On 9/28/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
Herbn, do you mean you'd want them "squashed down" so that drop-through was unecessary but that "regular" boards would require a big stack of risers?
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radikals
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On 9/28/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
actually, their a bit to conservative for my expectations,a truck like that,made for racing,shouldn't need to be dropped through, i think that makes the deck twistier(torsional flex) the decks are gonna be full cutout anyway,if your making special (expensive) truck like that why not go all the way?
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Back Right Wheel
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On 9/28/2005
Nicnoyd
wrote in from
Germany
(213.157.nnn.nnn)
Yeah,that´s what I was thinking... But they are interchangable with different lenghts available like on the slalom trucks - maybe even in 10mm diameter? That would fix the bending problem, I´d guess...
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those axles
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On 9/28/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
they look like titanium, that would make them kind of springy,and a little tough to bend, but look at the back right wheel.
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Can you say bent axles...
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On 9/28/2005 nawakwa1
wrote in from
Canada
(70.26.nnn.nnn)
I would guess those axles will bend nicely.....
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gOAds new toy
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On 9/27/2005 bean-a-reano
wrote in from
United States
(216.89.nnn.nnn)
No wonder you want ot go out to Babbler on Sat.
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those radikals
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On 9/27/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
they're,,,,,ok
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GOAD
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On 9/27/2005 M4RC10
wrote in from
Brazil
(201.10.nnn.nnn)
Great pix of the truck...
You showed all its details. Cool!
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Spheres & Height
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On 9/27/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Yes, and lower.
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radikal talon
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On 9/27/2005 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
so, does it use spherical bearings over the kingpin?
same height as a randal dh?
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dh
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On 9/27/2005
gOAd
wrote in from
United States
(24.107.nnn.nnn)
the trucks you are looking at are pre-production. the production trucks will come with grade 8 kingpin and it can go either way
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Radikal DH truck
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On 9/27/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(206.124.nnn.nnn)
Why a grade-5 kingpin, and in that orientation?
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"floating axle" Up Truck
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On 9/27/2005
Derik
wrote in from
Germany
(193.7.nnn.nnn)
Yes Chris,
that was exactly what happend. Its good to use large washers on these trucks anyway, because the speedwashers disapear in the urethane trucks. A few washers solved the problem.
The loose axle has an advantage: the hangar is not well made on the axle side. Now I could pull it out and even the hangar.
Have a nice day!
Derik
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UPs in USA
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On 9/27/2005
Derik
wrote in from
Germany
(193.7.nnn.nnn)
Hi Toddc,
take a look at uptrucks.com.br. They say the US distributor is awhsales.com and smoothill.com.
T don't know how the axles perform, yet, because I don't have al the parts together. I will write a review in November, when I have given them a few downhills, carves and slides.
Best regards
Derik
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c flex
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On 9/26/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
looks like an "interesting" ,"surfy" perhaps, "weird", "strange" and a few other adjectives work for me.OK indepentent suspension that steers as it compresses, yuck, steep turning angle,are you suposed to go fast on these things? whew ,i'd have to try them for a long time,i'd have to buy them to try them, i don't really think they do anything worthwhile.
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C-Flex RULEZZZ
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On 9/26/2005 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
Just like I cannot afford to try Magun Trucks... I will also be deprived of the economic opportunity to try the C-Flex:
"Flex_One sprung trucks retail for $198.00 (inc.GST) per pair.
For orders within Australia add $15.00 for post & handling.
For overseas orders add $45.00 post & handling."
Yeah, yeah..convert it to Aussie money and it's still bank.
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C-Flex
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On 9/26/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Kind of looks as if you'll need risers and/or kicks on both ends to mount them.
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