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Topic Buttboarding Info
Push Culture in VT
On 5/25/2015 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

Push Culture is doing two events on the first weekends in June. Killington is first, down the Bear Mountain access road, which has 70 mph potential, but one gnarly left-hander that'll make it a two-sprint race. The second weekend is up at Burke Mt. (or Q-Burke, as it's new owners oddly re-named it!?) going down the condo/rich-guy's-houses access road, which is good for speeds in the 60's, and has a good number of turns in it.
If you ride in the East, be there!

 
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Push Culture venues in the in Northeast
On 8/28/2014 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

While I've only been able to limp my Subaru up to two events in 2 years (and NOT partake in either event, no cash, to time, and/or no leathers that fit anymore [when did I get fat?Yikes!] ;) , I've been pleased to see that my time some 17 years back chatting with, educating, and luging with Marc Dean wasn't wasted time. He's been using a few spots dear to my heart, many up in the Ski-Area hills. Now, Ascutney (a few years back) still hurts at a personal level, as Dave Auld took a wipeout that NO-ONE EVER wants to see happen. I felt terrible about that, and said to Dave (while on the backboard, waiting for the DART Helo to the hospital), that this was certainly Not what I wanted for his visit to Vermont. Our roads often have Camber, are narrow, bumpy, and the shade and fallout from trees (sticks, twigs, nuts, sap, pollen) play havoc with your line, often making a run usable only at certain times during the very short warmer seasons here. Still, finding a steep and low-traffic hill, one without stone walls along it or railroad crossings at the bottom is a bonus. Marc did find those at Okemo, Killington, Burke, and at his old stomping grounds of Windam in N.Y.. Those runs, along with Munnsville, have been pretty successful, and user-friendly, with low crash rates and good feedback on the fun factor provided. Look up 'Push Culture' on youtube, and you'll see why I've ranting about Vermont, and New-England in general for downhilling (in whatever form of Ride you pick)for the last 20 years! Marc's events in these venues have been something I have hoped would be for a very long time. I'm glad to watch (from an uncomfortable distance) these hills being used the way I've always thought they could be; A Summertime getaway that brings a bunch of speedfreaks together in these beautiful lush hills for a gathering that inspires everyone.Mr Dean, you Rock! I've been running Okemo, Killington, and Ascutney for a few decades now, along with Stratton's access and 'back' roads, some condo runs around Mt. Snow, and few times up at Bolton Valley as well. I'm sure there's similar stuff to be found in the White Mountains to my east as well, though I've mostly done only Luging in the N.H. mountain area, as the condo-roads and such are either too busy, or too rough. The State highways can be nice, but Cars are always an issue (driven by 'flatlanders' often, so be very alert with those drivers!), as leaf-peeper tourists are NOT looking at where they're going. I would still love to Rt.118 closed for two days of Riding! Maybe next life, Eh? Meanwhile, I'll ask this of the Northeast Posse.. Keep your eyes open!; and Scout Out the next level of great hills around here. Who knows, maybe 10 years on, it'll be Your hill everyone is raving and craving! Oh, and don't do VT. Rt.9... It'll kill someone.

 
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Jr. Buttboard
On 8/30/2012 James McC wrote in from United States  (74.42.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for the wheel advice PSR. One of my friends sons (he's 10) saw how much fun we were having with our boards, so I had to make his own 3/4 scale version. He loves it.
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Buttboard cruiser wheels
On 7/29/2012 PSR wrote in from (184.61.nnn.nnn)

James, Grippens in 78A, or 80A Avalons/Hotspots will give you a good ride. These are "slalom" wheels, and they grip intensely, not 'drifting' wheels. However, the lips can filed/belt-sanded to relieve the 'edginess', retaining lots of grip yet providing some drifting potential. Flashbacks are still viable, but will wear on the outer bearings due to their offset cores (like my old Roadie-Racers did), and I would expect Tunnel Tarantulas to be similar. Now, with bigger wheels, rule out Gumballs, unless you want some 'drift' or want to go down to 75A. Watch your ride height, and wheel clearance with bigger wheels, as rub at speed can induce Huge wobbles, and braking can suffer with a higher ride. Butt boards are hard to adjust in both realms,so.. Big-Zigs in 78A or 80A would be good, Centrax's will increase grip, but feel 'sluggish' in turn initiation (lots of rotational mass!). Seismic's 77mm Speed Vent in 83A or 79A are great, but feel 'edgy' due to the lip shape and bigger core. Your Aluminators are a classic 'keeper', so use them wisely!

 
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Wheels
On 7/27/2012 James McC wrote in from United States  (74.38.nnn.nnn)

I'm building another buttboard and was wondering if anybody had any wheel recommendations. This is a standard 'Lott' style board and I weigh 160 lbs. (341 kgs.). The hills I'll run on are not super steep (steep is downtown San Fransisco) and somewhat smooth, and I won't be competing (so size isn't an issue) - I just want a good, fun, fast wheel. Any suggestions about size and durometer? I have a brand new set of Power Paw Aluminators that are 70mm - 78A. They'll work, but since I have to buy Randall 180's for this deck, I may as well get new wheels, too. Suggestions?

 
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Got a buttboard to sell
On 7/3/2012 Mario wrote in from United States  (76.102.nnn.nnn)

I haven't been to NCDSA in a long time, I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting here. I've been out of racing, probably won't get back into it, and consequently have some neat stuff to sell, including a really special classic luge. Unlike most classic luges, it's concave, which makes it stiffer, lighter, gives you better leverage in turns, and more wheel clearance. It also has wheel wells, you simply won't rub. It's not one of a kind because I made three of them, one for myself, one for Rian James, and one for Mark Johnson. The trucks are R2s but they were modified by Herbn to have hollow 8mm axles threaded through the bore, so the bearings don't run on threads. Because of this, the bearings fit perfectly, no slop whatsoever. The truck hanger has been modified to have a speed ring cut into the face, no washers required on either side. I'd let this go for the right price and to the right person. Someone who is actively racing and needs this.

 
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thiago
On 8/27/2009 thiago wrote in from Brazil  (201.93.nnn.nnn)

Planeta SKATE PARADISE 57 from Fuego Skate on Vimeo.

 
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New Board
On 4/29/2009 ButtHead wrote in from (173.55.nnn.nnn)

Nice!!@!!

 
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Wood, bent right...
On 4/15/2009 Pre-School Rider wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

Did I find my next board?

http://www.sickboards.nl/catalog/popup_image.php/pID/610?osCsid=101d829c15af2dbe3167b8bb1f614277

Click the link, and see for yourself. ;-)

 
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santabanta
On 4/29/2008 santabanta wrote in from France  (91.121.nnn.nnn)

http://sitesantabanta.net/index.html santa banta

 
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WTB; ButtBoard
On 2/4/2008 AJ Powell wrote in from Canada  (24.122.nnn.nnn)

I will attend 3 sports at the next MCGFVI,
I need a buttboard, who still sells these?
Im looking for a Classic Lott Racing board, if those aren't available I'll buy Novak's model.

 
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MCGF
On 1/13/2008 T Novak wrote in from United States  (66.189.nnn.nnn)

For Immediate Release: Backstabbing race organizers WILL steal events away after sabotaging the same event they are taking over the year before. Dr No Racing... as in "No, I will NOT race with Neil Orta." Racers, know the WHOLE story before you register. Stay tuned for the ENTIRE story to be told. It is unbelievable...

 
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Madison County Gravity Fest VI
On 1/11/2008 DrNo wrote in from United States  (70.182.nnn.nnn)

For Immediate Release: Alexandria, VA --- DrNoRacing, LLC is pleased to announce, the Sixth Annual Madison County Gravity Festival, the longest running major downhill racing event in the United States that will take place July 26th & 27th , 2008. Top international gravity sports athletes from around the globe will be taking part in the unique event that will be held on East Hill Rd. in Munnsville, New York. East Hill Road is known as one of the premier venues for gravity racing in North America because of the challenging corners, high speeds and good pavement. In addition to Pro and AM Street Luge, Pro and Am Downhill Skateboarding, top athletes will compete in Classic Luge, Inline Board, Gravity Bike and Junior classes. Registration will be online at WWW.DRNORACING.COM beginning January 14, 2008 with a $25.00 discount being offered to those that sign up in the first 30 days and will run until July 18th, 2008.

Registration and Tech Inspection will also be offered on site Friday, July 25, 2008 from 12:00pm to 5:00pm. Racers that have registered online are encouraged to check-in on Friday and go through Tech Inspection to save time on Saturday. More information will be released as the event planning progresses, feel free to forward any questions to Events@DrNoRacing.com

 
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Jonas
On 12/22/2007 Big Steve wrote in from United States  (69.235.nnn.nnn)

Jonas,
We're not too far away from Santa B. We practice at Templin. If you're up for a short drive you're welcome to practice with Christian and Kyle. Often we put the call out and one or two other riders show up.
Let me know if you're up for it.

 
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Jonas go to Maryhill "Festival of Speed"
On 9/4/2007 Volcanic wrote in from United States  (12.104.nnn.nnn)

www.maryhillfestivalfspeed.com

 
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socal
On 8/31/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

jonas,

igsa race - san dimas, ca

 
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I wanna ride
On 8/28/2007 Jonas Jungblut wrote in from United States  (71.102.nnn.nnn)

Hey!
I used to race at the Hot Heels events in Austria back in '99, '00 and '01 as well as in a couple of races in Berlin, Germany. Then moved to Santa Barbara and got busy with my career and did not compete or ride at all. Today I raced down a steep and freshly paved road on my bike and that feeling came back to me, uhhhhh... now I wanna get back on my board and go fast. Anyone racing in or around Santa Barbara or anyone wanna let me know about some meetings or events not too far away?

Thanks!!!

best

Jonas

 
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Keep it classic!!
On 8/22/2007 buttimaan wrote in from United Kingdom  (135.196.nnn.nnn)

key word in this is CLASSIC... END OF STORY... The rest is in the hands of the riders to keep it what its meant to be.

 
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trucks
On 8/20/2007 wendtland wrote in from United States  (65.191.nnn.nnn)

floating axles will not help against anyone. its all in the mind.

 
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keep it classic!!!
On 8/20/2007 buttimaan! wrote in from United Kingdom  (135.196.nnn.nnn)

Guys i know that they are allowing floating axles these days..but this is not called classic luge for nothing so regardless of what is allowed it is up to the whole group to keep it the way it should be ie: Classic luge!!!!!!!! not wooden street luge...floating axles won't help you against a good rider on a real Classic!

 
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darren its micah, the kid from twin pines
On 7/28/2007 micah galusha wrote in from United States  (67.181.nnn.nnn)

hey darren i have been trying to get in contact with you and the other guys but i cant get a hold of anyone.if you get this can you give my e-mail (armyrangerme20@yahoo.com) to everyone we used to luge with?

 
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yo
On 7/24/2007 wendtland wrote in from Canada  (216.9.nnn.nnn)

Sorry for the long delay but I have been very busy. Who is psr seems like he knows what's going on.

 
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setup
On 7/10/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

Jordan, not sure what you are asking,
but most people run R2's front and back
I seen people run the 35 plate for the rear.
Make sure you run harder bushings to keep the wobs away.
(randal blue bottom and black top)

here's some more info
http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/luge.html

 
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Front/rear steering , tightness bias
On 7/10/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.69.nnn.nnn)

Jordan, I don't agree with More Steering at the rear, but a slightly softer bushing kit does make sense. Better than 3/5th's of your weight is on the front truck laying flat, more when you 'scoot' up to get good braking or sit up for a tight corner. And front truck wheel rub is not pretty at all, so having the front snugged down a bit more makes sense. Steering, though, I'd keep good turning going on up front, but that also depends on how much you'll use the legs as leverage for turns. My trucks are further apart than yours, so my front truck leads my hips a bit. That makes it less tippy in tight turns, and more stable on straights and in braking. All a matter of preference. Just be sure that changes you make are sorted out bit-by-bit, and run up to speed gradually. It takes some laps, but then once it's sorted out, you'll know just how your sled works.

 
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Truck Adjustment
On 7/10/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys, I have decided to do a lott style buttboard as my first one with a wheelbase around 32-34". Ill be running 45 degree crail DH trucks. I have heard of most people adjusting the trucks just like a standup skate but a few seem to make the back turn more then the front by wedging it more then the front and/or putting softer bushings in back... Whats up with that?

My initial plan is to have the front wedged to 52.5 degrees and the back dewedged to 37.5 degrees.... Then I am going to run a harder back bushing and loosen it just enough to keep the back wheels down while leaning.

Sound alright? I just dont get why people would want a stiffer less turny front truck... Seems like thats asking for slides and wobbles (atleast on a standup)...

Thanks

 
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