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Khiro Bearings!!!!!!
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On 4/16/2008
HELL FADELL
wrote in from
United States
(199.227.nnn.nnn)
I road KHIRO ceramics at the Beast of the East last weekend....
FAST AS HELL!!!
Nuff said.............
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ABEC 11
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On 3/12/2008 Rob in VA
wrote in from
United States
(138.162.nnn.nnn)
Hippy, ABEC 11 is a company that makes wheels. They make some of the best wheels available today in my opinion. Rob
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about ceramics..
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On 3/7/2008
Liam Fourie
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(135.196.nnn.nnn)
I have heard from reliable sources that you get ceramic ball bearings that are a grey colour and apparently these balls are a better quality and less likely to shatter.. can anyone back this up?
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Ousted!
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On 3/6/2008 Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(66.91.nnn.nnn)
Carl is a genius!
I'm head over heals with MOC 7's for the boardwalk. These bearings are simply tolerance loves and lubed to roll perfection. awesome stuff!
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10mm Bearings
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On 2/25/2008
Liam Fourie
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(135.196.nnn.nnn)
You will be able to get bearings to fit a 10mm axle from Landyachts as they are ONE of the only companies that sell these trucks..
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there is nuch such thing as abec 11
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On 2/21/2008
hippy
wrote in from
Australia
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thers nuch such thing as abec 11s
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ceramics
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On 2/16/2008
James
wrote in from
United States
(76.221.nnn.nnn)
the bones ceramics cost 100 dollars and i tried them out, because my friend has them and they ride really nice, and now i want some ceramics, I have some rocknron's rockets and they ride real nice and their nuclear missiles (ceramic) cost 85 dollars should i take the chance and get some nuclear missiles or be safe and get the bones?
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reflex 10mm bearings
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On 2/10/2008 doug
wrote in from
United States
(204.38.nnn.nnn)
hey, i got a set of reflex 10mm bearings, with 10x10mm spacers and a set of 8mm top hats that came with; they're all brand-new. i was wondering if anybody know how much these retail(ed) for and if anyone could give me a link to them
thanks!
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10mm bearings
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On 2/9/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
what company is still doing 10mm bearings for skateboards?
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not so "lucky"
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On 1/25/2008 MP / Speedo
wrote in from
United States
(71.49.nnn.nnn)
I've had those before at some point.
You might want to try a set of Bones, Oust, Ninjas, RocknRons or something like that.
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Shattered bearings
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On 1/16/2008
John
wrote in from
United States
(69.226.nnn.nnn)
I had a set of Lucky 7s for about 2 months. The other day i was out rideing my board in a nearby shopping center/ gas station. they worked fine the whole time i was skating but when my friend came by my board didn't seem to want to roll. we went back to his house to see what the problem was and when i removed a wheel, the inner bearing came appart into about a bazillion pieces. I can't figure out why it happened. can anyone help?
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Nature Boy Ninja 7's are now available
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On 1/16/2008 Ninja
wrote in from
United States
(69.223.nnn.nnn)
Nature boy has joined the ranks of Ninja riders with their own signature bearings. These are Ninja 7's which are the fastest non-ceramic bearing ever !!! Ride em', race em', just get them. You will not be sorry.
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ceramics at speed
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On 1/10/2008
fitz
wrote in from
Australia
(220.236.nnn.nnn)
I'm able to get more speed out of ceramics by being able to use less lube without fear of bearing blowout. Wash the factory packed lube out and adding just a tiny drop of thin oil is enough to hold back surface rust on the races.
Manufacturers drench bearings in the crap to acheive better shelf life in packaging. You'll find most of it spins out onto your nice new wheels on the first few rides (break in period) and they actually get quicker.
Ceramic balls have a far smaller heat expansion co-efficient compared to steel. If steel balls get to hot with friction (from lack of lube) they can seize.
Less lube means less drag.
I'm testing a 10mm axle set of ceramic bearings with stainless races at the moment.
History shows most stainless race bearings are slightly softer than high carbon (harder) ones but the difference isn't noticeable at speed. The stainless races may wear out quicker though. Time will tell.
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i concur ,,again
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On 1/8/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
i think aero is the most most important difference,well rider to rider weight is obviously up there,but for riding with other people of about equal weight, aero is it with clothing/helmet at the top of my aero factors,ride height may be up there too.Leathers and aero helmet is good for about a 1 mph advantage on a mile long 40+ hill,not impressive,you wouldn't notice solo ,BUT that's about a 120 foot leadat the bottom,that's HUGE,you just watch the leathers ride off into the distance.
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David's question
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On 1/8/2008
JBH
wrote in from
United States
(165.134.nnn.nnn)
David, I own a set of Ron's ceramic Nuclear Missiles, as well as a set of the steel Missiles (or Missles, as I think it was spelled on the package).
I got them because, like you, I wanted to believe the claim that they were better for high speed than other bearings.
A few months ago, I did some downhill speedboarding on a legitimate 40 to 45 mph hill. It drops steeply for about 100 yards, then goes over a series of small ups and downs. The whole run is about a mile long. I've skated it several times before and only once have I ever made it over it without pushing. Every other time, I ended up running out of speed somewhere short of the top.
Anyway, the last time I skated there, I used the same wheels for several consecutive runs (I think they were either white Speed Vents or Pink BigZigs) and swapped bearings after every one or two runs. I tucked every run about the same and took virtually the same line every time. I didn't compare top speeds or elapsed times, but I did compare how far I went up the "runout."
Here's what I discovered: There was NO noticeable difference between any of the bearings I tried. The Nuclear Missiles (brand new) went about as far as the steel Missles (<6 months old and cleaned ultrasonically and relubed), which went about as far as the Oust MOC 9's (also recently cleaned and relubed).
I also skated each run with at least one other person beside me, and I noticed no significant difference in acceleration, i.e. how fast they got up to speed.
So to answer your question based on MY experience, I'd say there's no demonstrable difference between any clean, decent-quality bearings.
As MANY people besides me have said many times before, your bearings matter less than you think, and less than other things like how aero you can get or the line you take. So get a set of bearings you can afford, and work on your tuck and your general skills on the board, like footbraking, sliding and drafting.
For what it's worth, I also own a set of the Nitro Racer X ceramics and a set of RocknRon's ceramic Rockets that are at least three years old, plus several sets of Pleasure Tools green-sealed ABEC 7's. I like them all, and I use them all. I just don't worry much any more which ones I use, as long as they're even reasonably clean. I have not done the same run-by-run comparison of those on a DH board, but if I did, I suspect the result would be virtually the same.
So there's my answer for you. Take it however you want.
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Andrew
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On 1/7/2008 Needs new shorts?
wrote in from
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Andrew, the phrase " allowing a better air flow to the balls ..." just cracked me up! Sorry to be frivolous, you can carry on with the serious stuff now!
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David / Andrew
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On 1/6/2008
BHN
wrote in from
United States
(68.121.nnn.nnn)
Dear Andrew,
"I waswondering if 8mm bearings will work on a 10mm axel"
No. They will not work. You need 10mm bearings for a 10mm axle.
Dear David,
If you are not going to be racing, you do not need the ceramics. The steel bearings will handle 45mph just fine, and will save you a chunk of change.
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reason for durometers
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On 1/4/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.255.nnn.nnn)
if a street is a bit rough, which is not a good discription,smoothness can be a bit subjective. 88a definitely needs a fairly smooth surface to be optimal,even 84a big zigs(the hardest wheels i'm using regularly) need a smooth surface to be truely faster than 81a the harder ,it's close,on the typical street in my area, the harder wheels have sort of a quicker push off but the softer wheels hold the speed better. On a harder smooth surface the harder wheels are better in all ways the softer wheels feel like flat tires by comparison.
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ceramic
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On 1/4/2008
andrew
wrote in from
United States
(75.64.nnn.nnn)
I am using bones ceramic swiss and they didnt work very well for me at the start so I removed the shields allowing a better air flow to the balls and now they are the fastest bearings ive ever had and I waswondering if 8mm bearings will work on a 10mm axel
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Correction
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On 1/4/2008 Rob in VA
wrote in from
United States
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meant to say definitely "NOT" very accurate
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Bearing Dilemma
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On 1/4/2008 Rob in VA
wrote in from
United States
(138.162.nnn.nnn)
HerbN, I concur...my comparison is definitely very accurate but the riding conditions/location/activity have been identical.
The ABEC 7 Biltins are older but I cleaned and oiled them with no improvement in performance. Put in a brand new set of Pleasure Tools ABEC 7 sealed bearings and the ride isn't much better. Trucks are Tracker Sixtracks in very good condition.
Switching wheels for a much closer comparison....
I have a set of ABEC 11 70's Flashbacks, older, 81a with a year old set of ABEC 3 Pleasure Tools and they ride great. Put a set of ABEC 11 70's Flashbacks, newer, in 88a, on the same deck (Gravity Logan with Tracker Fulltrack re-issues) with a year old set of Pleasure Tools ABEC 7 sealed bearings and the ride is significantly slower with the harder wheels and better bearings.
I will continue my quest!
Rob
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ABEC 7 vs ABEC 3
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On 1/4/2008 Bob
wrote in from
United States
(132.250.nnn.nnn)
If the speed difference can be "felt", you have a problem with the ABEC 7's
It should have nothing to do with weight. Each 608 bearing is rated to near 3,000 psi each. times that by 8 ... the bearings don't even feel ya.
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different different
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On 1/4/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
you have soooo many variables,why don't you limit things to one set of wheels on one board set up,and ride all the bearings on the same street with the same wind and weather conditions. 88a wheels on a warped set of axles on a rough road on a cold day could make any abec 7 bearings seem slow. How old are the bearings that are being compared i don't suppose they're all the same.
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ABEC 7 vs ABEC 3
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On 12/30/2007 Rob in VA
wrote in from
United States
(70.160.nnn.nnn)
I have a dumb question...does the rider's weight have any impact on the performance of bearings? I weight approx 210 pounds and felt that my ABEC 7 Biltins were riding pretty slow so I tried one of my other boards with a set of Pleasure Tools ABEC 3 bearings and they (the ABEC 3's) were significantly faster. OK, the Pleasure Tools were in a set of 70mm 70's Flashbacks and the Biltins were in a set of 65mm No Skoolz so the wider diameter would held a little. Stick with me...
So I had another set of 70's Flashbacks on yet another board and these wheels have ABEC 7 Pleasure Tools in them and the duro was a little harder (88 vs 81) so I figured that these wheels would be even faster than the softer wheels with ABEC 3s in them. Guess what? They were slower!! So, going back to my original question, why would I go faster with ABEC 3 bearings than ABEC 7? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Rob
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RocknRons Nuclear Missile Ceramic Bearings
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On 12/29/2007
David
wrote in from
United States
(75.6.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone have any experience with these bearings? Are they TRUELY THE FASTEST like the company claims? These bearings would go into an all around longboard that will see speeds up to 45mph but will mostly be used for riding around town and pumping or carving. Are the Nuclear Missile Ceramics much of an upgrade from the steel Missiles? The price isn't a factor but if I can save $50 I would prefer to take that rout. What are the advanteges of the Ceramic missiles vs. the nuclear missiles? I read somewhere that the steel millises are faster than the ceramic missiles but that seems counterintuitive to me.
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