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randal
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On 9/22/2005 Paul K
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(195.110.nnn.nnn)
Greg...
don't diss da man!!
check adams e-mail address....i think he knows how to spell it!!!
Paul K
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My apologies for being snippy
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On 9/22/2005
gregolsen
wrote in from
Canada
(209.205.nnn.nnn)
http://store.yahoo.com/purpleskunk/randalkingpins.html
Apparenetly Randal has only one L at the end.
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Be a little more helpful perhaps??
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On 9/22/2005
GregOlsen
wrote in from
Canada
(209.205.nnn.nnn)
TomT
mcmaster carr or other commercial hardware enterprises will sell you a Grade 8 3/8 bolt. We use Calgary Fasteners here in Calgary. Take your old one out and take the two pieces with you. There are various head available and lengths so go for a drive in commercial/industrial land and get yourself a few.
BTW ADAM your search terms only netted me your lazy little post. Even with Randall spelt correctly it yields nothing. I tried the search term 'Grade 8' in Truck Reviews for the 'Entire Archive'. That got me a bunch of posts. Mostly with Randall incorrectly spelt as well.
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randal kingpins
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On 9/22/2005
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(198.144.nnn.nnn)
tom t, This has been covered on Ncdsa.com in the past. Use the Google search box in the upper right corner of this page. Search for
randal grade 8
and be sure to select Ncdsa.com (not Web).
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randal kingpins
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On 9/22/2005 tom t
wrote in from
Canada
(66.241.nnn.nnn)
hey randal fans...I love my RII 180s, but recently snapped the rear kingpin. Anyone know where to get an indestructible replacement?
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Kaspian's Tracker experiment
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On 9/21/2005
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
You asked...
I wonder if this setup would work on a 38" Fibreflex?
Hehe...That's too funny, K. What do you think my wife's board looks like?
Yup! 38" FF Pintail, 140mm Orion/Axis F wedged, 139mm Dart R VERY mild de-wedge on top of Flashbacks.
I'm not happy with the width of the overall setup, so if I stick with the Flashies, I'm gonna go with the 129mm hangers...or keep the 140/139's and go with Grippins or Manx.
I love riding this board too...AND it doesn't need too much riser with the deck cut-outs, so it rides nice & low.
AFA the Seismic F or R thing I was doing on my GS decks, I'm finding that I like the F Tracker/R Seismic more & more (thanks, Pauliwog)...but not quite enough to give up the F Seismic/R Offset-TTC combo.
-=S=-
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hello
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On 9/21/2005
Steve Collins
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
NIC - EITHER EMAIL ME OR POST YOUR EMAIL SO I CAN EMAIL YOU. NO ONE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SPOT ONLINE BECAUSE IT'S A SENSITIVE SITUATION. THIS IS MY LAST REPLY UNLESS YOU EMAIL. COME ON DUDE.
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nature center
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On 9/21/2005 nic
wrote in from
United States
(208.57.nnn.nnn)
any thing on the nature center
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About Seismics
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On 9/21/2005
svarteld
wrote in from
Sweden
(213.64.nnn.nnn)
Hey Greg,
I know that problem - adding some dampening, not spring tension, would be nice on Seismics when going faster. If you check back a bit in this forum, I have a bulky (+400 g) Seismic like that, with a 16-click dial for dampening, so you can add/remove dampening in seconds depending on your run. The truck feels the same regardless, but limits how fast you can change direction. Your idea would of course be more elegant. This one was simple to make. If you want some tips on how to build one, let me know.
Cheers /P
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Seismics
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On 9/21/2005
gregolsen
wrote in from
Canada
(209.205.nnn.nnn)
I have a fundamental problem with Siesmic trucks... as great as they are. On my longboard I switched to heavier springs from the yellows. Purple on the back and light green on the front. The thing only turns at warp speed now. I think the yellow spring rate was fine, its just that the truck needs dampening for high speed stability(although it is better than standard trucks for stability generally). So variable dampening rather than variable spring rate would have given me what I want. With standard trucks and cushions(bushings) you get dampening due to the material. Seismics have no inherent dampening. So you crank up the spring rate which kills the turniness of the truck. So when are those springs with urethane internal dampeners in place of the smaller dia internal spring coming out? Or do I have to get industrious and make my own? Actually replacing each spring with a small hydraulic cylinder with hydraulic lines to a separate hydraulically dampened gas spring unit is on dream list. Anyone out there skilled to tackle that one? Then you can have a remote dampening adjustment that would allow you to ride soft springs and low dampening for slow and carvy riding and crank up the dampening for higher speed stuff. Finally a one board solution to flattish city streets and the odd rad hill you want to bomb down....vice versa.
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New School trucks as rears?
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On 9/21/2005
gregolsen
wrote in from
Canada
(209.205.nnn.nnn)
Hey ya'll,
If the goal of a rear truck is to not turn that much new school trucks satisfy that criterion. Does anyone put a turny slalom-type truck on the front and a generic new school truck on the back?
Greg
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Dragonslayers...Mmmmm!
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On 9/21/2005
Martin Drayton
wrote in from
United States
(207.224.nnn.nnn)
Well, after a little wait, got my Dragonslayer 90mm's. I rode them once before Morro and there was NO adjustment time needed to get used to them. Predictable, easy to use/adjust (can't be doing with taking kingpins off),smooth turning and beautifully finished.
Cannot praise them too highly, as they allowed me many clean runs on the TS course due to their ability to fine tune your turns with their ease of use!
Thanks Fluitt and Wax for all your hard work and providing a truck good enough to get you on the podium for those of us that are financially challenged!
Martin.
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Indy issues
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On 9/20/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(206.124.nnn.nnn)
My main beef with Stage IV Indy's is the proprietary kingpin. The stock kingpins are so short that you can't fit tall bushings. I've found that Core and Destructo trucks have near-identical geometry to Indy's, but the kingpins are trivial to change out for longer ones.
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Crail vs INDY
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On 9/20/2005 WAX
wrote in from
United States
(67.176.nnn.nnn)
I agree with K-Lee..(so does my quiver) in instances where the Randalls, or Dragonslayers wont do what you need on a longboard, Go with the Indys...wedged if needed, but always with better bushings....
I prefer Khiro, and Bob is one of the industries best guys.....
try a blue barrel with a blue insert, then go harder or softer from there...
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change the bushings and add wedges....
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On 9/20/2005
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
(172.159.nnn.nnn)
So, the advice is to get some Crails and then put them on wedges and install better bushings. Wouldn't that same adjustment make the Indys he already has better for carving, without the need for Crails? Don't underestimate the magic of a slightly weged Indy-like truck with softer bushings......
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Wedging Crails
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On 9/20/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(206.124.nnn.nnn)
Simple. Wedge the Crails with something like a Khiro wedge, and they won't be all jacked-up in height. Works great. Oh, and change the stock bushings.
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RADIKAL DH
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On 9/20/2005
MARK MCCREE
wrote in from
United States
(69.69.nnn.nnn)
The down hill and cruiser (serious) trucks were unveiled at the worlds. I know CC has pics- I e mailed them to him.
35 deg and 55 deg opts for any dicipline.
Aki placed 3rd in Montreal on them and has spent the last year testing them.
we will get some pics up soon.
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Turny
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On 9/20/2005 lonerider
wrote in from
United States
(65.249.nnn.nnn)
You could just add a 10* wedge to change the Crails geometry to be exactly the same as that of the R2. If you use some softer bushings like Khiro White/Blue, Radikal Clear/Red, Bones Hardcore Soft - it will be crazy turny.
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crails
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On 9/20/2005
dan@CSU
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
i like that crails are lower to the ground, but if you read my post, i want something very turny, so if the geometry is in between r2's and dh's, doesn't that make them less turny than r2's? i decided to put indys on it and it's the perfect height. too bad it doesn't turn
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Dan@CSU
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On 9/20/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(69.15.nnn.nnn)
The Crails would be a good choice, Dan. Lower than Randals, and geometry that's inbetween an R-II and DH. Quality is excellent. Contact me directly if you're interested, as I import/stock them.
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dan@CSU.......Crail Trucks
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On 9/20/2005 Jo Jo Fuzz
wrote in from
United States
(68.123.nnn.nnn)
Crails are good trucks.....very similar to Randals in geometry. Crails have better quality control it seems. Less variation in manufacturing. Gullwing makes DH trucks too. Check them out. They make a 60 deg and a 30 deg truck, and are about to come out with a new one called the "Alpine".
L8
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svarteld's suggestion
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On 9/20/2005
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(64.81.nnn.nnn)
Svarteld, a reverse cambered deck used to be called rockered. I've been riding rockered decks exlcusively for the past several years and think they are superior for balance, control, and comfort. My favorite setup is a Comet O'Shei (stiff flex), flipped over to provide reverse camber. I also occasionally ride a flipped Fibreflex Leemo (the teardrop-shaped Leemo speedboard).
I've been trying to get deck manufacturers to make such a deck but thus far only Bahne has come close.
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Suggestion
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On 9/20/2005
svarteld
wrote in from
Sweden
(213.64.nnn.nnn)
Dan,
I had a similar problem with a camered deck - I like them as low as possible. You could drop-through Randal RIIs, fit them with the tall black DH bushings on both sides, use a flat washer or a flipped small Randal cup washer on top, no washer at the base, and sand out wheel wells. It turns.
I did this and it still was too high for my liking. So, I flipped the deck :-) No kidding. The camber turned negative, into a spoon-like camber shape, lowering you closer to the ground. Puts the feet in nice leg-like angles, like "cant" used in alpine snowboarding. If the deck has no concave, it will work fine - drop through as usual, sand wheel wells on both sides, and turn it around again if you don´t like it.
My deck had slight concave, so I have lists at the edges, about the height of the concave (3-4 mm), and about 15 mm wide, to get good edge contact. Actually makes it easier to feel the edge than on a flat or concave deck. I also dropped the trucks about 1,5 cm further than a usual drop-through.
IMO, it rides so much better up-side-down: sharper turns with same bushing preload, slides better (tried it first time yesterday with 75A gumballs) and easier to feel the edge. Just don't forget the lists at the edges if you got concave, it's a big difference. If you don't want to sand too much away for wheel wells, use side-set wheels like Flashbacks och Kryps.
/Peter
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suggestions?
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On 9/19/2005
dan@CSU
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
what would be a real tight turning carvy truck thats not too high off the ground? seismics are too expensive/complicated for me, randals are too high for my board which has lots of camber. anyone tried crails?
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Trackers + Orions
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On 9/19/2005
kaspian
wrote in from
United States
(65.99.nnn.nnn)
NYC Asphalt Surfer, thanks for posting those comments from Purple Skunk re Trackers. I got turned on to Trackers a couple of years ago by Duane (plus I think Tway and PSR might have had a hand in it) who recommended a particular setup for mini-cruiser: 33" Landyachtz Mummy, 149mm Tracker Darts, 81a Avalons. You swap out for softer bushings and longer kingpins. The trucks are mounted flat with just thin soft pads (the shape of the board makes wheel rub impossible). This is the coolest ride in the whole world.
Steve in AZ posted an interesting variation on this theme a couple of months ago: Tracker Dart in back, Orion Superior in front. Both these trucks are made by Climax Manufacturing. The Superior has got more "aggressive" geometry than the Dart, so this is kind of like the Tracker RTX-front/RTS-rear combo that a lot of people like.
Anyhow, I got fired up to try this on a 36" Insect Dragonfly. (The Orion, it turns out, is available from a soulful little oldschool supplier, Stillboardin.com.) Only, when I laid everything out, my plan had kind of a big hole in it -- the Insect is drilled for oldschool, the Orion and Dart for newschool. So I looked around and found that, who knows why, one (and only one) of the Darts on the Mummy has a 6-hole baseplate. Also, just eyeballing it, the baseplate on an RTX looked like it would fit the Orion. So, voila: a strange-looking swapped-out monster grew from the pile of parts, complete with yellow Stimulators I've been hoarding for years for just such an occasion.
This was, I mean, the GREATEST ride you can imagine. For about 30 feet, at which point I got the worst wheelbite in my personal history and found myself staring up at my 13-year-old son and his evil smirking skate pals.
I dug out the longest screws I could find and threw on all the risers that would fit, but still the situation did not look completely safe. These trucks, as modified, are very turny. Plus the Insect is cambered to start with, so I was riding about a foot up in the air. With a heavy heart I put the Seismics badn on. But I tell you, it isn't nearly as much fun as my 30 feet of carving bliss.
I wonder if this setup would work on a 38" Fibreflex.
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