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On 9/19/2005 kaspian
wrote in from
United States
(65.99.nnn.nnn)
herbn -- by rough count, 54 pages of skate fashion and accessories, including a groovy Emerica paisley necktie, and 4 pages of skate backpacks. There's even a funny page with kids' jeans and t-shirts where they sneak in a deal on a mini Element complete up in the corner. It's like the actual skateboard has become an accessory to the skater attire.
Wheels with that?
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Bennets for Slalom
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On 9/18/2005
Snowplow
wrote in from
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I'm just getting into slalom. I just set up a PP Hardcore Series Brown bomber, and I've borrowed some old Bennett Pro's along with some wheels. Now I'm liking these trucks enough that I've located another set and I'm thinking about buying them. These are narrower than the pro's (Hijackers w/ 2.25" hanger). Would these be ok for slalom (I'm assuming narrower will be more responsive), or should I try to find a set of adtracks or the like?
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On 9/18/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
ccs sells stuff besides skateboards? sports stuff?
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back of the store cushions
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On 9/18/2005
chewy
wrote in from
United States
(69.39.nnn.nnn)
hardgoods at the back of the catalog.......
back of the store....
profit margins.......
pasion...............
or profit............
most sit on their cushions.................
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bushings > cushions
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On 9/18/2005 kaspian
wrote in from
United States
(65.99.nnn.nnn)
We seem to be migrating toward a new term here. I noticed in a mainstream skate catalog (SkateAmerica, I think) that my son and his pals have been poring over this weekend that "cushion" is now the term of choice.
CCS is holding the line at "bushing."
Speaking of which ... don't you love how CCS now relegates skateboards and related equipment to the back of the catalog, alloting it 21 pages in the latest (92-page) edition?
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TALL vs small
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On 9/17/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
ex. a tall 85a bushing with a bit of preload, could feel similar to a 80a short bushing run with no preload, the tall bushing would possibly be less likely to wobble and still steer as far, if not farther, than said short bushing.
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Dan Does
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On 9/17/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Dan does make nice tall cushions for trucks. They're made in the shape of a spiral and are metal. He calls them something like Winters, Summers, Falls...
p.s. I am making cushions and they rock. Patience my friends.
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One more thing about BUSHINGS...........
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On 9/17/2005 Same Guy as Before
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Not any discredit to the idea of CHAPUT MAKING BUSHINGS, but also there is the very real possibility and question that remains as yet unanswered....... and that question is: WHY DOESN'T ***DAN GESMER*** MAKE NICE BIG BUSHINGS EITHER????? And to add to that would be could ***KHIRO BOB*** tweak his formula at least in 2 or 3 hardness to make a BOUNCIER BUSHING??? Okay, so I'll stop being a pest. Hmm, maybe I should move these comments onto the Vendor's Forum and be bushing pest there. What, did you say "Budapest is square"?
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Bushing Addendum
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On 9/17/2005 Same Guy as Before
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Hey, Also, you probably will need to get a longer kingpin if you are riding trucks with "standard" height bushings and that have "standard" length kingpins that do not stick up above the hanger. You will never need(nor likely want) taller bushings in a skatepark but it's a very noticeable improvement for general longboarding and slalom. Oh yeah, FEEL FREE TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BUG ***CHAPUT*** INTO MAKING AND SELLING BUSHINGS, NICE TALL BUSHINGS, BUSHINGS SHAPED AND SIZED LIKE THE TRACKER STIMULATER(a moment of silence please), CONICAL BUSHINGS, SOFT, MEDIUM, AND HARD BUSHINGS, MAYBE SOME "STANDARD" SIZED BUSHINGS, BUT ESPECIALLY TALL SLALOM BUSHINGS. Ok, That's about it I think. Hmm, I guess that's all I have to say, I suppose that if I think of anything else I have to say about CHAPUT MAKING BUSHINGS, I'll post it here first. Adios-Paul
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Bushings for Nic
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On 9/17/2005 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Hey, Taller bushings allow more swing of the hanger to get a better smoother turn and it allows some "pre-loading" of compression onto the bushing to keep the hanger in place somewhat firmly rather than "loose and floppy" as shorter bushings end up doing in order to have loose enough trucks for tight slalom. Adios-Paul
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whats the differce
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On 9/16/2005 nic
wrote in from
United States
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whats the difference between big and small bushings
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and another thing....
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On 9/15/2005
MISS KITTY
wrote in from
United States
(71.0.nnn.nnn)
By the way, Aki didn't make them!
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RADIKAL DOWNHILLS
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On 9/15/2005
MISS KITTY
wrote in from
United States
(71.0.nnn.nnn)
NEWSFLASH! The RADIKAL DOWNHILL TRUCKS are now available! They come with 35 or 55 degreee baseplates and are $250.00 per set. You may email me or call me toll free at 877-radsk8r (877-723-7587) and I will be happy to get your order in for you. We have 40 sets in stock and more on the way!
Miss Kitty
Radikal Trucks
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Rads
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On 9/15/2005 Danny Connor
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
Miss Kitty,
Thanks for the response. I was actually at Top Challenge representing for Sector Nine, what race! I have skated with Aki more than a few times, we're the new young guns who can't take anything seriously besides going downhill. I asked that dork what kind of trucks he had, and with a s#@!-eating grin he said "I made them myself". Yeah buddy, good one. Anyway, he's a killer rider and I'll see him this weekend and hopefully at a few more races this year. I won't be at the World's for I'm not huge on the slalom gig(it's scary). Will you guys be offering any kind of deal for established downhill skaters? The trucks look really cool. Wow this is a long post, I've had too much coffee! Thanks again! DC
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MILE HIGH
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On 9/15/2005
MISS KITTY
wrote in from
United States
(71.0.nnn.nnn)
MARK--I will email you directly, but you can reach me by email, or toll free at 877-723-7587, or on my cell anytime, which is 561-436-7044. I will be happy to help you.
Miss Kitty
Radikal Trucks
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DANNY CONNOR
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On 9/15/2005
MISS KITTY
wrote in from
United States
(71.0.nnn.nnn)
Hi Danny--Aki just podiumed at the Montreal Top Challenge with the new Radikal Downhills. Sparky will be bringing some to the World's this weekend, if you're there, you can check them out. If not, keep your eyes peeled here--we will be making an announcement next week, and you will probably see posts from people who will try them this weekend.
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Sector 9 Bambino - Seismics or Trackers - Purple Skunk
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On 9/15/2005 NYC Asphalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
(216.75.nnn.nnn)
- - - - - Purple Skunk - - - - -
Hi, James
Your comment "I never ridden a board with Tracker
trucks" is a very common quote. You have to try it to
believe that it is truly awesome. If you're in the
Bay Area...come on in and demo. We do not steer our
customers wrong. This is the scoop - Indy no longer
makes the 109mm trucks. With the resurgence of smaller
boards we wanted to offer a small truck BUT WITH the
carving ability as a longboard/slalom board. We went
on the hunt and worked closely with Tracker to
customize the full track to suit our needs. Yo! Full
track with soft bushings for a turny ride. R2 150's or
Seismics are great trucks too, but we wanted to be
innovative and offer something new to replace the Indy
109 truck. 10 out of 10 customers have gone with our
truck choice of the Full Track when purchasing the
cruiser boards ie Landy, Bambino, Z-Flex etc. and are
stoked!
Anything else that I can help you with? ...just
holler!
Best!
Lizzie and the Purple Skunk Crew
- - - - - Purple Skunk - - - - -
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Trucks, shocking huh?
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On 9/14/2005
Danny Connor
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
Hello truck fiends,
I know everybody is REAL busy arguing here, but I have a serious inquiery. Are there any US dealers that sell Magun trucks? And is there anyone who's tried the Radikals for downhill? I'm interested in trying something other than the ol TRUSTY Randal floaters.
IT'S A SKATEBOARD NOT A RACE CAR! DC, S9
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Sector 9 Bambino
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On 9/14/2005 kaspian
wrote in from
United States
(65.99.nnn.nnn)
NYC Asphalt Surfer -- I keep looking at that "flavor of the month" special, too. It looks like a fun little thing, doesn't it? And I like the way they've got it set up.
I bet you would like the Tracker Fulltracks. They definitely don't feel anything like Seismics, so if you want that "spring-back" quality then they won't feel right to you. But Trackers -- though you could call them an Indy-style truck -- don't feel like Indys, either. They have a very nice, predictable, butter-smooth sort of turning quality, especially ridden loose with soft bushings.
A board this small, I guess, would be ridden mostly as a sidewalk surfer or campus cruiser type of thing, and I think Trackers might have a more precise, "point and shoot" kind of steering than Seismics in tight situations. But maybe, as you suggest, Seismics would be better for pumping.
I wonder what the gang at the Skunk has to say about this.
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Radikal Bushings
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On 9/13/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(206.124.nnn.nnn)
Can someone from Radikal please contact me? I've had numerous requests from my customers to stock Radikal bushings, but my e-mails (to Radikal) all go unanswered.
Thanks,
Mark @ Mile High Skates
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Revenge of the Pauliwog
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On 9/13/2005 Some Guy from Oregon
wrote in from
United States
(24.22.nnn.nnn)
I'll bet this guy I've seen from Corvallis has probably done Chewning's estimated 1024 changes between trucks, riser angles, wheel bases, wheel type and durometer as well as bushing durometer changes. His wife wonders if he actually "rides" his slalom equipment rather than just changing stuff around all the time. He's really not that fast or clean of a racer as a result either, he'd probably be up there with Dong at the races if he'd actually ride as much as he plays around with all the component parts and learns to ride one consistent setup. That's all I have to say on the matter, unless I think of something else to say on the matter. -X
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Triangle bushings
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On 9/13/2005
svarteld
wrote in from
Sweden
(213.64.nnn.nnn)
Chris,
Nice to hear from you.
I've also noticed that the triangular bushings tend to twist when tightening them, but the double washers with lube pretty much solves this, so it's OK now. I also use the edged washer upside-down, just like in your picture, to make it possible to use a small washer that won't cut into the wide bushing. I think small washers makes for longer travel before reaching the stop.
I use the kingpin/nut in the "wrong" direction because the tall bushings would otherwise make the nut stick out far from the hanger. But I also use very long kingpins, with all threads inside the base, so no worries for snapping them.
I also noticed that the DH hangers two "legs" between the busings come close to the urethane when using big bushings, and threatening to give less steering than possible. I had this problem with the first cylindrical ones (black/white, previous post). The new triangular, and in particular conical triangular, has less or no problem with this. But the conical ones do not change feel and resistance much when tightening the nut - seems they mostly compress in the narrow part, so different duros is needed to adjust feel.
One more answer - the bracket behind the truck is not for dodging curbs or to fix the pivot axis, but for mounting a damper (pictures). The truck actually already has a pretty fixed pivot axis, since it uses spherical steel ball bearings in the pivot and bushing places. And that's one of the reason I started using wide bushings, because the ball makes the bushing seat very crappy - now, the triangle is the seat instead. There's more about these dampers previously in this forum.
And speaking of rollerskates - would be cool (and yes, stupid) to try fitting four of these trucks to a pair of shoes. The wide trucks would require a pretty, hmm, newly-wed pose to ride them :-)
Cheers /Peter
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Triangles
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On 9/13/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Hey Svarteld, I like what you're doing. What may appear as "oversized" cushions to some, are "undersized" cushion seats to me. With hangers that are 6", 7", 8" in width (152.4mm, 177.8mm, 203.2mm), and decks that are 8" to 12" wide, there is a LOT more leverage for steering applied the cushions. A short, narrow, conical cushion made of questionable material can't handle theses forces very well. They were designed for half of the weight of the rider, a 2" hanger and a plateform the width of a human foot. Yes, today's cushions are basically a rollerskate cushion, unchanged in its basic dimensions for as long as I've been alive. Some of these cushions are made hard, because they lack the mass necessary to handle the load. As a result, you get the "flop until they stop" or the "these things don't turn" type of setups. Kingpins and top cushions have been shortened to add clearance for grinding, even though the board may be made exclusively for carving or downhill. This is a nightmare for carvers, cruisers, and downhillers because these setups lack a full range of motion with the "linear" feel that you have described.
Because of the shape of your cushions, your use of two top washers and lube is smart. I'm sure you noticed that as soon as you depart from conical/cylindrical cushion shapes, tightening/loosening your locknut/kingpin head will want to twist the cushion out of alignment. You want to keep the tip of the triangle facing South, yes? I'm not wild about the triangular shaped insides of the cushion seat area on the DH truck. Have you ever noticed that it engages the sides of a conical/cylindrical cushion and twists it as you turn. You may have solved that with the shape of your cushions. It also appears that you have fabricated a bracket for behind your truck. I'm guessing that it's either for going up curbs, or to support the cantilevered hanger to provide a truer axis of rotation. If that's the case, you must be shimming your bottom cushion, or using a "turnbuckle" system to apply uniform compression on the top and bottom cushion. I like the axles as well. It looks like you're on your way to a nicer handling and feeling board. Keep up the good work.
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Sector 9 Bambino - Pumpable - Seismics or Tracker Full-Tracks
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On 9/13/2005 NYC Asphalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
(216.75.nnn.nnn)
For those of you that don't know, the Bambino is a bamboo board that is 7.5" wide x 26.5" long. I never ridden a board with Tracker trucks, but I do have various longboard decks with Seismics, Randal 180's, and Indy trucks. Anyway I noticed that Purple Skunk was offering the Bambino with Tracker Full-Tracks (w/ Blue Special Blend Soft Bushings) and was wondering if the smaller Seismic trucks would yield a board that was more "pumpable". Also, are Tracker full-tracks more like Indy trucks?
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CCs green giants
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On 9/12/2005
svarteld
wrote in from
Sweden
(213.64.nnn.nnn)
Chris,
Nice to see you working on big bushings, I have great respect for your work.
I made some big bushings last summer (this forum, and these b/w pictures). The newer ones (color) are shaped like a triangle to get a nice contact patch against the DH hanger.
Some of these bushings also gets more narrow towards the washer/base, and if fitted with a small, rounded washer they give a plush, linear feel with lots of travel before reaching their stop. Also, with this narrowing, you can use harder durometers and still get soft linear feel, but with more stability around the center. But, the narrow top gets a little fragile when adjusting the kingpin, so I use double washers, with lubrication in between. Would be nice to glue one of the washers right on to the top (somewhat like a Khiro), to make it tougher.
The straight ones are more rigid and durable though, works fine.
Maybe you can have some use of this info, to give you some ideas?
/P
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