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Geezer Got any.......
On 8/16/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Geezer....Dude, it was great hanging with you at the Farm and talking bikes! Ron Olson was stoked on your pimped out ride! Someone told me you have Pivot cups for Tracker RTS....is that true? None of the Khiros I have fit...

Marion Karr
www.downhillbillies.org

"Fueling The Stoke One Hillbilly At A Time!"

 
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Jet Luge Trucks
On 8/13/2005 Bob Swartz wrote in from United States  (69.251.nnn.nnn)

It's just now official!!!!
The Blue Smoke Jet Luge will be appearing and running the 1/4 mile at Maryland International Raceway (Budd's Creek) on August 20th as the opening "act" for the Jet Wars Show.

Here is the headline for the show:
For the first time ever, witness the world’s fastest fire-breathing Jet Funny Cars and Jet Dragsters in side-by-side eliminations! Plus Bob Motz's JET POWERED Kenworth, the Adrenalin Crew Motorcycle Stunt Show and MIR's exciting FRANTIC 7’s! It's the wildest show in drag racing - don't miss it!

The promoter asked if I could get that "thing" over 55mph.... I just smiled...

For event info goto their site at
http://www.mirdrag.com/ and look for JetWars

I need you truck ideas fast...
Any potential sponsors want in????

Wish me luck.

 
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Traction lab
On 8/12/2005 Geezer-X wrote in from United States  (68.239.nnn.nnn)

Nice fabrication job, but how do you keep the contact patches of the rear wheels aligned with one another?

Whith a pair of rollerballs, this (and the NoveSid truck) are a fine idea. With "square" wheels, the absolute maximum possible and most predictable breakaway are acheived by keeping the wheels as concentric to one another as possible.

 
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Ground Control to Major Tom
On 8/12/2005 Traction Lab wrote in from United States  (207.114.nnn.nnn)



 
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Jet Luge
On 8/11/2005 Bob wrote in from United States  (69.251.nnn.nnn)

Thanks Adam. But as a Website it stinks.. I just got a new host and need to learn to structure and write the site... right now www.jetluge.net redirects to my old site.

and of course not to nit pick but the specs you found are of the Civilian RC Aeromodeler version... I held out a long time in order to be able to intercept the Aerospace version... specs are similar but this baby pumps 52 lbs of thrust with the FOD screen... Go ahead grunt like Tim Allen...

bob

 
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JetLuge
On 8/11/2005 Adam wrote in from United States  (198.144.nnn.nnn)

Just watched Bob's video and checked out his web site. Way too cool! Anyone with $5K handy should run right out and buy your very own JetCat P-200 turbine:

        
Thrust: 45 lbs @ 112,000 RPM
Weight: 5 LB
Diameter: 5.12 inches
RPM Range: 32,000 - 112,000 RPM
Exhaust gas temp.: 580°C-690°C
Fuel consumption: 24 oz per/min at full power
Fuel: Jet A1, 1-K kerosene
Lubrication: approximately 5% synthetic Oil in the fuel
Maintenance interval: 25 hours


Check out those RPMs!

 
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JetLugeVid
On 8/11/2005 Bob wrote in from United States  (132.250.nnn.nnn)

Well here is a link to yesterdays vid. 59.4 GPS in the 1/8 mile and I was chicken sh*t on the throttle around the curve this time. Tomorrow I run it at MIR and will have a 1/4 time.. Do not expect Pro Stock numbers.

Click here for link

 
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(No) rear steering
On 8/11/2005 svarteld wrote in from Sweden  (213.64.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for the info. I got some questions for more pictures, so here´s a couple. Well, the bracket sticks out a little on the right, would be nice with a slightly shorter damper.

Kanufi: I've also had some problems with dodgy steering and no rear steer - I tried both Randal R-II and DH at the front on this deck in Åre/Sweden this year, and it steered somewhat OK with the R-II, but very slow with the DH. One way to fix this is a shorter wheelbase (I've built two such decks - one is in Germany now, with damper, getting tried by Peter Sanftenberg, owner of Rolls Rolls). The other way might be a normal wheel base with a really turny front, with damper to calm it down.

Cheers, Peter




 
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Race Trucks
On 8/11/2005 Jim/LA wrote in from (69.239.nnn.nnn)

"Radikal" Dragons Breath Pro Combo

What's the good or bad word on this company?
I need a truck combo for a new GS style racer.

thanks again.

 
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No rear steering
On 8/10/2005 Kanufi wrote in from Australia  (202.139.nnn.nnn)

Yeah a mate of mine Fitzy made a board for speed runs which had a zero degree baseplate.It didnt go around corners to well but he was hitting low 90kms on this set-up and it was stable but dodgy when you wanted to turn.
Cheers:kanufi

 
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JetLuge Trucks
On 8/10/2005 SinAZ wrote in from United States  (130.13.nnn.nnn)

Bob, I've been following your project for awhile now, and I'm extremely impressed. I'd LOVE to see what that thing would do in the 1/4 mile!

AFA trucks, you've come to the right place! JimZ, Geezer-X and all the other machine-heads with large last initials visit the ol' Geek...er, I mean TRUCK forum. My money is on an extremely well-built 3/8" or 10mm axle with possibly FOUR trucks: Weight be damned, let's make this thing STABLE.

The biggest problem is your desire to make the steering sharp enough to turn a street corner. My guess is that you'll have to give up a little (or alot) of sensitivity for stability at speeds reaching (or surpassing) 100 mph. Dang.

As always, best of luck in this project! If nothing else, you'll be able to pay for it in a year or two with what appearance fees you can charge.

-=S=-

 
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MMW Seismic 100mm to Geezer-X
On 8/10/2005 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Hey Eric, Thanks!! I'll try to get it to you hopefully some time soon (whenever I get caught up with a schload of stuff to do). At the moment it's not a big deal since I really generally only use that truck in Avalon/Cambria situations.

That's cool about the variety of trucks at The Farm that you mentioned, that's always good to see. Hopefully I'll make it out to a race "back East" sometime and see everybody.

Adios-Paul H.

 
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And after being sucked into the air intake...
On 8/10/2005 Rick from OZ wrote in from (203.129.nnn.nnn)

... all that was left were his helmet and shoes...

 
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Really High Speed Trucks
On 8/9/2005 Bob wrote in from United States  (69.251.nnn.nnn)

First if you have not seen or heard of the "JetLuge" project go to www.jetluge.net
I am in serious need of 4 high quality trucks that will be stable at extremely high speeds and still be able to turn a typical street corner. The prototype has z-rollers because thats what I had around. The obvious off the shelf stab at it is Randal luge trucks 50 degree baseplates in the front and 35 in the rear, but I am concerned of the machining quality and alignment out of the box for speeds approaching >100mph. If any one is interested in solving this part of the project with their product or solution I will consider it good sponsorship and the trucks will be seen by more than just skaters.

This is absolutely not a joke. More video coming but watch the static testing at my site.

The jet luge has been operation for just 2 weeks and has already been seen by hundreds at a gravity event in New York, thousands at a RC Jet Rally in Lebanon PA, and on August 20th around 10 thousand at Maryland International Raceway during the Jet Wars show. Each time I show this to people they ask me what wheels and trucks can go that fast... (estimated 130+) and I have to apologize and tell them that I don't know about the trucks yet.(or the rider for that matter...lol), but there will be 3 or 4 of them with the big balanced ABEC11 Flywheels on them. So I need some speed freaks help here... I am not to cheap to purchase the product that will do the deal, but sponsorships are alot more fun when you are both trying to push the others toys to new limits.

If you have something for me, contact me at the above email address. Thank you.
Lugebob

Jet Rally


Maiden Voyage out of my driveway


Turning on to main road (Rules of the road.. stop and look both ways...lol)




 
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trackers
On 8/9/2005 isaiah wrote in from United States  (24.21.nnn.nnn)

Ima newb pool rider. I am going to purchase some sixtracks and I was wondering what bushings would be best suited on sixtracks for pool carving for a 150lb rider. My setup is LY smoke deck (38 in) with 95a bds dub cons. I have always ridden randalls and upgraded my bushings to Khiros. The same upgrades for randalls suited for conventional trucks?

 
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old venture baseplates
On 8/9/2005 duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

ben, old indy baseplates will replace the venture directly. I also have several old Venture bases that I can send to you for the cost of shipping. they are collecting dust on my end. In fact I'll send you everything I have that is venture

email me

 
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100mm Seismic MMW8s
On 8/9/2005 Geezer-X wrote in from United States  (65.205.nnn.nnn)

Hey, Paul Howard...

Send that thing to me and I'll machine it to match the new ones which accept Grippins, Manx, and of course all 3DM wheels.

And on a totally unrelated note, there was a really wide variety of trucks being ridden at The farm...

 
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Exkate Customer Service
On 8/9/2005 Jeff wrote in from United States  (198.176.nnn.nnn)

I bought some Exkate trucks back in 1995ish. I bent an axle when I first got them and it was a nightmare getting them replaced. Their customer service guy was terrible.

Two weeks ago, I went to change the bushings on these but the hanger would not come off. I called Jim at Exkate and he was really helpful. He asked me to send them in, he'd pop them loose and clean them up. They came back timely, lubed, new hardware, bushings and risers!

Apparently, the customer service really improved with the buyout of the company. I just hope they can get some blue bushings manufactured soon. The blues really give the trucks a smooth, surf-like ride.

Jeff

 
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venture
On 8/8/2005 BEN wrote in from United States  (24.130.nnn.nnn)

i have a set of original 80's venture trucks but a bolt hole in the baseplate is gone i can still skate it but i was wondering if anyone has a replacement baseplate they will sell or knows what other baseplates will work

 
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no rear steering
On 8/8/2005 duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

some dudes used to ride boards with home-made rear trucks with no rear steering - in the '70's during the first wave of speed runs. These were mostly for going straight down hills

I myself have run a dewedged Randal 28 degree plate which is in fact what I ride most on my speedboard. I like having very little rear steer, I think my set-up works out to about 22 degrees or so, with about 45 in the front. Very stable. I also run harder bushings in the rear.

 
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New setup
On 8/7/2005 Svarteld wrote in from Sweden  (213.64.nnn.nnn)

Want to share some excitement I have right now - just got back from a hill with my friends, trying out a new truck setup on my Rolls Rolls. Worked like a charm! I've been tinkering around with steering dampers on longboards for quite some time now, and this is my fourth deck using dampers - and the best one so far. Pity I didn't build this deck myself though...

The back has no steering, using a RII at zero degrees with blue hard Stimulators, flat washers - the strange kingpin angle requires hard bushings, but still feels very soft. This takes a really torsionally stiff deck, because rear foot steering have to go directly to the front via the deck.

The front now uses a Seismic at 45 degrees with extra-light springs, and a steering damper mounted behind the truck, hidden under the wheel fenders. No linkage is used, reducing play. I've moved the truck a little forward to make more space for the leverage. The damper allows me to run the truck without any preload at all at speed, feeling very soft, but stable. It turns like crazy, feels absolutely linear, and won't bottom out - 75A wheels can be made to break traction even at pretty slow turns before that happens. The low deck also makes 75A 97 mm Flywheels easier to slide - guess that's a piece of cake for many of you, but for a newbie like me it's good news.

I've previoulsy tried various Randal RII and DH (damped and undamped) setups, with and without ball joint bearings at the pivot and hanger/kingpin, tall and wide soft bushings, etc etc. I've liked them, but they never got this linear and instant turning.

Without rear steer the deck won't fish-tail before actually shifting the weight sideways, and only one damper is necessary since it only steers in front. Also, it seems that really rough surfaces won't throw the rear around as much. Even the steering remains pretty unaffected on rough surface, probably because of the damper. I love it! Except when trying to ride backwards, wich is totally impossible... And it's a matter of taste also - my friend tried it right after hopping off a dropped stiff deck with similar wheel base, DH trucks at about 40 degrees front, 25 back - He hated my deck, calling it scaringly instant steering.

This board have earlier clearad IGSA technical inspection at 4,0 kg with 97 mm wheels, but without the damper - now it's around 4,4 kg, so if the damper is allowed and considered safe, it will still clear.

Any thoughts? Someone made something similar?

Cheers, Peter





 
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Looking for Gullwing trucks Super Pro 3
On 8/6/2005 A.J wrote in from Bahamas  (24.244.nnn.nnn)

Looking for a set of gullwing Super Pro 3 trucks with metal base plates. Prefer pre 1985 but will take after 1985 as well.

 
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Addendum to Scott with the Alva Reissue
On 8/5/2005 Same Guy as before wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Look for "Hamm's Broke" then look at the "Dub Cons" listed.

 
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Scott with the Alva Reissue
On 8/5/2005 Pauliwog wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Hey Scott, Check the "Buy-sell-trade" forum for some wheels to match your deck.

 
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Paging Mr Buddy Rawls
On 8/5/2005 Paul Howard wrote in from United States  (64.5.nnn.nnn)

Hey, Buddy, email me at: bird041167@yahoo.com . I'd like to talk about some RT-X sorta thinggs, Thanks-Paul

 
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