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On 3/2/2003 Civ
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Divid, those slides look good. I think I just need some time on my smaller decks to get them happening. I have some custom shaped 94a turner lacosta wheels that are killer for slides. I have been using the 88a flashbacks for the high speed stuff. The tls feel like your on ice. Thats for the vid.
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On 3/1/2003
david
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360 standing slides, thats nuts, i think JM can do those, i've seen him rip in up on Hiller doing standing slides like darry freeman
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On 3/1/2003 david
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hc hey thanks, i was'nt even sure if that video would work, knowing geocities.
what exactly is that slide i did, i mean its a 360 but i don't return to normal stance, i end up doing a extra 180 and end up switch stance\??
i would like to put up a larger skate video but don't have enough room on my site.
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On 3/1/2003 hc
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hey david, nice video!
yup, doing 360's on wet ground or for me, slippery floor at vans, will make learning a lot easier.
i haven't got around to trying the 360's like the guys in the supaflex video. it's like 2 continous toe side 180's.
david, how about those standing slides, i want to do learn standing 360 slides, they are cool looking...
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On 3/1/2003 david
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here you go, hope this helps
http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanfran/slidez.mov
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On 3/1/2003 david
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civ,
i just learned how to do 360s a few weeks ago, both heelside and toeside. i learned by sliding on a wet road with hard new school wheels. this helps to have as little grip as possible. if you are comfortable doing both toeside and heelside pendulum slides, doing a 360 slide is just a matter or putting 2 and 2 together.
a heelside slide with your butt to the ground is easier to turn into a 360. right at the point in the slide when you are rotated a full 180 and right before you would normally swing your arm back to come out of the slide, to do a 360, instead take that arm and twist it around and put it on the ground, now you are basically doing a toeside slide.....its that transistion thats hard to learn.
hope that helps
video is worth a thousand pictures, will try to post some on my site later.
david
www.geocities.com//sk8sanfran
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On 2/28/2003 brian
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civ,
hc is right. the bones brigade video show has a nice little downhill sliding session in which stacy and crew do a bunch of backside 360's (two hands down toeside slide to start it). watching the video as many times as i have has not helped me pull one off yet though, at least not a smooth continuous one. one of the things i'm doing that i s'pose may help me finally get them down is sliding to fakie and riding fakie as i rotate my upper body around and initiate the next slide. i'm trying to pull off frontside 180 to backside 180, and vice versa, with as smooth a transition as possible. eventually i'm planning to be able to make it one flowing maneuver, instead of two connected parts. i don't know if that'll help or if there are better ways to approach the whole process but that's where i'm at.
brian
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On 2/28/2003 hc
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bobby, it's hard to say without seeing your friend's tuck, if their back is flat, they might be pretty aero. Also, not all pros tuck the same, but most use the bend at the waist, ass-grab tuck. Part of the reason for this is that it provides a stable stance at high speed.
check my downhill pic page
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/downhillpics.html
p.s. john hutson (in the indy ad) was one of first to do the arms back style, i believe.
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On 2/28/2003 hc
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civ, got the bones brigade tape?
your answer is in there.
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On 2/28/2003
Shredder
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Dan,
I learned sliding on Krypto Classic K's. They will slide if you are fast enough and put enough weight in it, but they will wear quickly. I slid a brand new set down to the hubs in on pretty rad session...
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On 2/27/2003 bobby
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my friends and i have been geting in a big fight about tucking, they say you go faster if one was to use the dowg town tucking technique (like you're gunna do a collmen slide *kinda). But i on the, the other hand say (i'm the only one who believes this out of about 12 of us) that you will go alot faster if you tuck like the pros, bent over with your arms behide you. IF any one would care to settle this I would thank you very much. ~booby~
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On 2/27/2003
Civ
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OK, I can slide toe and heel side switch and regular and pendulum both ways but the concept behind the 360 sort of eludes me. I think heelside would be the easiest but i cant get the whole way around. Any tips from the pros?
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On 2/27/2003
Dan
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Can I learn to do slides (to stop and slow myself) on 70mm kryptonics classic k's? Im not sure what the durometer is, but they're pretty common so I figured someone else may know. I've tried to slide it around and it seems pretty damn sticky, but maybe it's my technique. Thanks
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On 2/21/2003 erik
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I noticed that as I was practicing pendulums on asphalt I had a hard time getting back around, but I tried it on concrete at a lower speed and I actually came back around and rode off. I think that it has something to do with concrete having less friction, then asphalt. So what hc said about speed, I guess you would have to be going 20+ mph on asphalt, or faster if it is rough to get it to work?
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On 2/21/2003 hc
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(joseph, responding to your email)
joseph, that board you have is fine, cliff slides on a board that measures @20" wb (inner holes)
as i said, get your pendulums down at lower speed, focus on the technique part. Work on the stance and try to get low.
I do most of my pendulums with two hands down. IMO, they are the easiest. But many have a hard time getting low.
toeside turns.
Again start slow, find a parking garage with a 180 bend.
and work on that.
loosing control on toeside turn is not good.
Joseph, did you read the tips for cornering?
some good info in there.
hc
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On 2/21/2003 erik
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Brian thanks. I have already changed my wheels once. I had sector 9's 78 duro. They wore down to the shape of a cone, but I realy liked the way you can carve hard on them and they dont slide out as easy as 85 duro. I am off to practice pendulums right now, down this small mountain by my Arizona State, looks fun.
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On 2/21/2003 brian
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erik,
i tried emailing you, it didn't work. anyhow here's what i was gonna send:
erik,
i was just pitching you some crap, a little coleman karma if you will. i realize everybody on the other forum was already giving you a hard time but i just thought it'd be funny (i particularly liked the bit about what goes around and all, punny eh?) sorry to bum you out though, i was just playin.
anyway, about your pendulums, like hc apparently, i first learned 'em on 85a bones bombers but i had the same trouble on my longboard: couldn't get 'em around. i redrilled the truck holes on my shortboard, way up on the nose, to get the wheelbase somewhere close to 18 inches and wedged the front truck down with a couple of angled risers to more or less level the deck out. anyhow, the shorter board idea is a good one, you'll learn it faster, but do remember that whole upper-body rotation thing, it's really important and that's what will get that longboard sliding when you go back to it.
another thing: if you slide a lot, you're gonna need new wheels soon. a bunch of guys recommed duros between 90a and 95a for a sliding set-up. i just got a set of cliffsiders and they're 94a and it seems like they're really gonna last a while and after i broke 'em in they started sliding really well. lately i've been running bones bombers on my longboard. 85a is soft enough to roll pretty comfortably on decent surfaces but they still give me a predictable slide if i need it. i got my cliffsliders on the popsicle and that's what i'm workin on my 360's with. anyhow, good luck.
brian
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On 2/21/2003 hc
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joseph, regarding pendulums, as i said before, get them wired at slower speed on a short board.
Toeside slide:
(not sure why you said you would use it for emergency. ??)
well, not much to it, toe side carve, plop both hands down, keep both feet on toe edge, (your heels should be up)
you should be in a push up position, if your ass is way up in the air, you will highside. Again, learn this on the flat.
Toeside pendulums:
(i still need to learn this one, but i am almost there)
Once again, video is the key here.
solidskate did have a good clip, but it's gone.
the powell sliding footage have good examples.
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On 2/21/2003
joseph
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i can do normal colemans and get most of the way into a pendulum before crashing. when i said i have not mastered it i meant i cant do them going really fast yet. on my board with 85a bombers i can easy do a 10 metre plus coleman just need more practice to control them before going faster. yes i meant a toe side.
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On 2/21/2003 hc
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eric,
as i said, you can learn these on the flats,
no need to go fast,
i learned on bones bomber 85a
new school wheels will slide even better.
a short board will rotate faster and easier for learning.
once you get the motion in your head, you can translate it to a longboard.
(just learned 360's on the flats on my short board)
joseph, you mean toeside slide?
you should first learn heelside slide, aka coleman slide.
(read this first)
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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On 2/20/2003
joseph
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anybody got any hints or sites that tell you how to do frontside slides? i have not yet mastered the coleman but am working on it and would also like to be able to do a frontside for emergencey's got a feeling learning is going to hurt though.
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On 2/20/2003
erik
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Thank for the hints I will try it with a shorter board. Also I have watched videos and slo-moed it during those sections, I think this helps. And as for Brian read the posting guidelines about attacking others. I did and I am wrong for that. Email me if you have something to say.
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On 2/20/2003 brian
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erik,
by the way, in order for any of that to work you have to purge yourself of any tendancy to make anti-soul posts on the soulcarving forum. what goes around, comes around (or not, right?).
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On 2/20/2003 brian
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erik,
using a shorter board, harder wheels, more speed, or a steeper hill will all (in any combination) likely make pendulums easier to learn. however, i bet your set-up will work as it is. i think one of the keys is quick rotation--before you bleed off too much speed. concentrate on committing to the slide, and rotating your upper-body uphill. it'll help you get the idea if you force yourself to turn your head and look uphill. push your right arm and your gaze uphill. i won't say uphill again 'cuz you've probably got the idea. ok, after you try that, do it again, and again, and again and you'll eventually get it.
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On 2/20/2003 hc
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another hint,
learned my pendulums on the flat!
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