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On 2/20/2003 hc
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eric, i believe you are refering to my sk8sanjose site?
anyways, follow the tips on there,
(hint: short boards, hard wheels)
another hint: videos.
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On 2/20/2003
erik
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I am having some problems doing a pendulum. I have read all of the Q&A's on cliff colemans site as well as most of the posts here, but I am still having some trouble doing a pendulum. I am using a 46" board and my wheels are 85 duro and I know that I am going fast enough. What happens is that I end up sliding 180 degrees so that my right foot is foreward(I am regulat foot), but I cant bring it back around and ride away. Anyone have this problem at first? Any suggestions?
Thanks
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On 2/18/2003 herbn
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if you start at an elevation of 1000 ft, drop 500,go up 400ft,then drop 800ft,then go up 100 ft. You went downhill,you're lower than when you started. On a railslide, you may turn frontside 10 or 20 degrees to get in the railslide but you gotta turn backside 90 degrees or more to roll away on the same side ,then the move is predominately backside.frontside is heelside backside is toe side,arrgggghhhh!
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On 2/17/2003
hc
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phxrider, i have no idea what you are asking, once you have your pendulums down, you can go down ANY road, you can come to a stop whenever you want.
(i hope that gravity video come out soon, video is worth a million words)
ankan, hopefully, you have checked my sliding page, there is a new section on cornering and past ncdsa tips.
if your rear is spinning out, you need to put more weight on the front. The hand grab is to stablise yourself, avoid yanking on your board.
best place to learn, the sharp corners of a parking garage.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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On 2/16/2003 brian
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phx,
i've never tried breakboard trucks, and i would be a bit nervous about the foot pedal thing. however, i do think that a braking system, preferably with a hand control, could definitely mean less walking and more skating on extremely steep hills or sidewalks where there is little room to slide. i would recommend getting really comfortable foot braking--with your whole foot off the board and not just your toe--and practice your pendelums until you can pull them off both frontside and backside (that's heelside carve to a slide and toeside carve to a slide respectively) before you invest in a braking system. sliding and footbraking are both predictable means of slowing down at speed. pneumatic wheel set-ups with brakes are an entirely different ball game as the equipment is more comprable to bicycles than to skateboards. the other difference with off road boards is the speeds are likely to be lower and therefore the risk of applying too much pressure or braking too quickly, and the resulting skin-peeling dismount, is not as great. plus, it just plain skares me to think of my body accelerating while my board is rapidly decelerating. if you get 'em, though, and i'm full of crap, do post and make my humiliation as public as possible. um, skate or die, ride on, charge it, eddie would go...whatever you're s'posed to say here...
brian
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On 2/16/2003
ankan
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Hi there guys,
I have spent some time searching the net for sliding info, and all that I have found is info on the "Coleman Slide" (btw, if you read this Cliff - huge creds for starting it! ;)....
I am doing a bit of downhill skating, nothing serious bust just for the fun of it, and I have realised that I can go through some corners faster by going throught them sliding, rather then foot breaking before starting the corner. The way I do this is that I move my back foot back a bit on the board (front foot still on the bolts where I usually have it), and "fold" my right(=back knee since Im regular) down, grab my board with my right hand and let the chopping board on my left hand scrub the ground(Essentially the the "Coleman slide pose"). This is all well, but I only get it working for the left turns (is that frontside or backside? Get all confused with whats frontside and backside since its different when you jump and spin and when you do boardslides... ah well ;).
I have tried loads of different variations on the right side turn but havent found anyone that works well yet - cos with most of them the back of the board overspinn and I end up sliding spiderman style on gloves and shoes. If I positioning myself in the middle of the board rather than on the front it seems like I loose my track and just slide straight rather then down right. I saw a photo somewhere of Chris Chaput and he seemed to grab the board with his left hand and use his right hand as sliding support but when I try this the tail just slide away... So i tried it the other way around, to grab the board on heeledge, between my feet, with my RIGHT hand, and use my left (front hand) as a support. That pose seems to work well at slow (read superslow ;) speeds, but I havent dared to try it out at any higher speeds yet, because it is fairly akward to get into and I don't feel very confortable to do all those acrobatics in speed.
So, basically, how do people "slide" through sharp righthander corners?
Im sorry If the post is a bit wordy - but what the heck, im swedish and I need to practise my english ;) Anyway, cheers for reading my post and I would be very grateful if I could get an advice on how to go on.
Cheers,
anders
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On 2/16/2003 PHXRider
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yeah ok.. just asking.. thanks for the info Brian
(the point being that if a good run bottoms out into traffic, and you enjoy sliding, could this add to the fun of going fast/slowing down? Maybe open up runs that you usually wouldn't try ...?)
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On 2/15/2003 brian
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phx,
besides being a rather pointless maneuver (why slide if you got brakes and why use brakes if you can slide and or have shoes...), sliding on motionless wheels is about the quickest way to needing a new set. flat-spots are not your friends. the general idea with downhill sliding is to rotate, and rolling wheels and frontside/backside rotation just seem to go hand in hand. that said, with skyhooks and offroad wheels, and a nice dirt hill or something, you might just be able to make some spectacular stops with such a combo. could also work on rain days. all in all i'd have to agree with hc.
brian
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On 2/15/2003 hc
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LOL, a cole?@! meaning a coleman slide, i presume.
a local rider have a brakeboard setup and is in the process of converting it to a handbrake system.
the foot lever thing is a joke,
combining a coleman slide while operating the foot lever would require some foot gymnastics,
anyways, i don't see the point.
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On 2/14/2003 PHXRider
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Has anyone tried combining a cole w/ the brakeboard truck yet? How would the slowing of the wheels affect the slide ?
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On 2/10/2003 hc
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why search?
see my sliding page
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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On 2/10/2003
david
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go to the tools bar and click search. type in "slide" or "coleman slide" this will give you a wealth of info
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On 2/10/2003
Chase Bilyeu
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Hey i just got my first longboard a San Fillippo Custom. and its completely sweet to ride . But tere is a problem this thing will take off on the slightest incline. and i know from experience that the best thing is to just ride it our and not jump when it becomes almost to much to handle. But what are some good bigger techniques for stopping at high speed? thanks Chase
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On 2/9/2003 Keith Johnson
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Weighting longboards on the front truck and weighting the back or tail are two very different styles of riding.
The downhill guys I see in NYC ride way up front and have super tight trucks.
You can mix front and tail weighting if you have a walk the board classic style. Many people I see riding really long boards (48 and over) I think ride them from too far up and they cant turn the thing. Plus they waste most of the board, the whole back half.
I do a lot of my riding from the tail and carve pretty slowly down hills and walk the board. If I walk all the way to the front of the board, I like to have tighter front trucks. Although I may keep them loose for a loose feel. In any case, my speed is limited by the overall wobbly-ness of my truck set up.
KJ
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On 2/8/2003 Steven
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I actualy ride Old-School decks with all the longboard gear and use the BACK trucks as my point of pressure......I never get wheel woble and have been know to get up there in the 60s...i think its the way I have my feet positioned...i skate ''mongo'' on the street so maybe that is y i have such luck on the back.
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On 2/7/2003 brian
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nice thing about a longboard is, you don't necessarily need to have your front foot on the truck bolts to steer from the front. as you ride more you'll figure out positions that work for different kinds of riding.
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On 2/7/2003 brian
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niall
remember when you wrote "when riding far forward on the board it feels 'squishy' and that I cant turn hard, when Im standing back, i can really 'dig in' to tight corners in a way i just cant when up at the front"(02/04)? imagine that sensation increasing exponentially to around thirty mph and tell me if you'd rather steer from the front or the back at speed. whether you describe the phenomenon in terms of the pickup truck metaphor or whether you just keep getting bucked off until you move forward or tighten up your trucks, i think the result will ultimately be the same.
brian
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On 2/5/2003
Cliff Coleman
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Niall,
44" is truly a long board. To me a long board is one where the rider has to move his/her feet from front to back to use the entire deck. I ride boards that accomodate a shoulder length stance. I can both steer from the front and also use the kicktail without having to move my feet. 44" is fine for walking the board and for steering from the rear truck if you don't plan on going fast. If you decide to up the speed any, I still recomend that you steer from the front to reduce the possibilities of wobbles unless you are going slow.
Cliff Coleman
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On 2/5/2003
Niall
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My deck is 44" so its not overly long... the difference as I see it, is that in a pickup truck, you dont have rear-wheel steering, so what you say makes sense there, but on the longboard, the rear trucks can steer the board just as much as the front ones :/
I dunno, i guess its just what feels ok.. I dont usually go much faster than i can run off, so maybe i havnt discovered the need for riding up front yet, but its something Im going to experiment with for a while. Like someone said already, low down in the middle seems to work well for me, but since Im learning snowboarding at the moment, moving forward seems like a useful skill to have too :)
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On 2/5/2003
Cliff Coleman
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Niall,
At any speed that you are unable to run off the end of your board, it becomes vital that you keep your weight up front on at least the back two bolts of the front trucks. The steering is from the front truck and it is important to keep weight on it! Imagine a pick up truck with an overload in the back. It would lift up the front end of the truck and take the weight off of the front "steering" axle. The truck would then not steer well. It would sort of float and more than likely, spin out. When skateboarding, if you take the weight off of the front truck, it will also (float), or wobble. Learn to steer with your weight on the front truck. You will be safer at speed. If your deck is extra long, you will have to move your feet from the front to the rear as needed for other moves.
Cliff Coleman
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On 2/4/2003
joseph
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i find standing with my weight positioned over the front truck when downhilling is more stable. the beack foot can go where ever but i always keep the majority of my weight on the front. but do whatever works for you.
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On 2/4/2003
Doug
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Niall,
I carve on the nose of my board because it frees up the back truck, making it feel more "surfy" and loose, but i cant really carve as deep as I can when I'm really low on the middle. whatever works for you. there are no rules
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On 2/4/2003
Niall
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There is no one around my area that longboards, so I am learning everything by experiments and watching some videos. I notice that nearly everyone carves while standing really far forward on the board, like front foot on the truck bolts and the back foot somewhere up around the middle...
Having come to longboarding from shortboarding, im pretty used to keeping my weight over the rear wheels, and when im downhilling, i have my back foot pretty much on the truck bolts and my front foot half way up the board or so..
can anyone tell me practical differences between these two positions? When riding far forward on the board it feels 'squishy' and that I cant turn hard, when Im standing back, i can really 'dig in' to tight corners in a way i just cant when up at the front (maybe this is inexperience on my part?)
Anyway, some discussion about this would be great, its been bothering me for a while now
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On 2/3/2003
Brad
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Doug,
my site is down...don't know what's up....try this one
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On 2/3/2003
Doug K
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doug..
Original Supercarves on ebay
search "longboard skateboard"
also search "Original Supercarve" on NCDSA
for more info
good luck
Doug K
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