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On 4/25/2003
Tom M.
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Never tried a roll-in over coping -- although I've been eye-balling the techniques of others lately.
Some seem to do (almost) an actual dropin (i.e., they wait until their back wheels are just to the coping and pop/press down on the front.
Others seem to initiate the pop earlier. These look more like the roll-in motion (AFA the motion of the board goes).
Still others seem to do a bit of an ollie before the coping resulting in (what appears to be) all four wheels clearing the coping as they hit the transition.
I have a feeling that I'll probably hang up on the back wheels the first time I try this, resulting in a face plant...
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On 4/24/2003 Gaz
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FAT!
Big boned I am.
I wouldn't try catching me though.....
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On 4/24/2003 hc
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r.ene, thx for the prop, antti have mentioned that wheel width idea before, i think i will add it in.
just helped a kid with roll-in (over coping), he told he face planted five times before, i told him to try it and i will catch him. anyways, he was leaning too far forward, and he got it on the second try! (caught him the first time!)
not sure this technique is gonna work with some of you older fat dudes ;-)
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On 4/24/2003 Gaz
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Re Drop ins
That don't apply to me coz I am only 39 3/4! Ha Ha
Cheers though.
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On 4/24/2003
Tom M.
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Gaz,
All I can add is: If you're older than 40, some hip padding is highly recommended before trying (from the voice of experience <g>).
I fell about six times (mainly hippers) before finally 'clicking'. Then, fell again when I went to the next higher level.
Several weeks before trying the padding, I fell twice. Ended up with one HECK of a bruise (not to mention soreness) that I didn't think would *ever* go away.
The padding allowed me to fall all I wanted (er, I guess that *should* read 'all I needed') resulting in no physical problems.
As others have said: Commitment is the key. In retrospect, every time I fell, it was due to me leaning backwards after I *thought* that I had 'made it'.
YMMV.
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On 4/24/2003
Tom M.
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R.ene,
Short version: Haven't gotten back to testing/practicing (at least not on my slider setup).
Long version: Lots of studying for school (nights & weekends), one weekend of rain, one weekend of wanting to just bomb, and last weekend I tried out my new Bozi. My longboarding is taking a beating due to me taking vacation days & going to the skate park instead of studying...
Thanks for asking, though! :)
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On 4/23/2003 Gaz
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Thanks for the dropin inspirations.
R.ene I too can roll in from a quite big height, but being an ex 70's skater never learnt to dropin.
Never too late??? I hope.....
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On 4/22/2003 R.ene
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good dropping in article:
http://www.skateboard.com/frontside/101/TrickTips/drop_in.asp
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On 4/22/2003 R.ene
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sorry, I think hc already posted that it's on his website
geocities.com/sk8sanjose
th e site rawks hard anyways, you know. Hey hc, how's about posting wheel widths or wheel-added width (for truing up your truck/wheel setups, like with R-II 150s and flashies, how wide is that?
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On 4/22/2003
R.ene
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Hey Gaz--
I just learned how to drop in--for me, the hard part is starting the drop standing still--I can roll into as steep a tranny as you want to, but drop ins kill me. One thing that really, really helped me was to hold or touch the nose of the board as I'm dropping in. It kind of gets your board/body into the right relationship with the transition, which is crucial. Once you get the physics down, you can just do drop-ins normal and pump. Go small and work your way up to tall? Small is actually harder (I think), but tall is too mentally freaky for me yet (the big yawning pool at Potomac Vans) have you checked out bob: http://www.bobstricktips.com/tricktips/taildrop.shtml
Sam: I'm not sure because I can't see you slide, but if your board is spinning out, I don't think that would be because you are sliding straight, I think it might be because you are kinking your body sideways with respect to the board--in an "L" rather than an "I" (my friend Ted does this). Once I make the turn to initiate the slide, I just try and stretch out (knees still bent) and really put equal weight on both feet. The important thing is to keep your ass down, like you really are doing a push up. If you are bending over and your bum is in the air, you run the real risk of high-siding onto your head when your wheels hook back up. So amen to Brian and the helmet advice. There used to be some really nice footage of toeside slides at solidskate--I dont know if it's there still. I saved it anyways, I can attach it to an email if you or anyone else needs it.
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On 4/22/2003
Nick
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DROP-INS:
Gaz, try this link: http://www.bobstricktips.com/tricktips/taildrop.shtml
The thing to remember is to commit to the drop. Handle it!
Good luck.
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On 4/22/2003
brian
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Sam,
first things first, it's always a good idea to wear a helmet when you're sliding backside/toeside. could be really scary if you happen to over-compensate and end up flipping over your board onto the back of your head. such things happen.
low speed slides especially on banks require you to really push the board out but you've got to control that urge to push (lamaze?) at higher speeds. to start a backside slide, get used to carving toeside turns with a hand down, leaning forward and getting low. moving from that sort of carve to a slide really only requires putting the forward (second) hand down and rotating the head and shoulders uphill. there is a certain amount of pushing you've got to use your legs for but the idea is to push just enough that your lower body doesn't compress under the force of the carve. there are few places this works but you've got to think 'tight.' as your your wheels break traction the next order of business is to suck your legs back in a bit--with your abs not your hamstrings--until it's comfortable. feel the tarmack under your sliders. focus through your hands until you are ready to pull out and then, especially in a pendulum but even in a straight 180, rotate your head toward the new direction to see the exit.
i hope some of that may help
brian
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On 4/22/2003 hc
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sam, you got it flipped.
try searching frontside or toeside.
btw, geocities.com/sk8sanjose
check the solidskate link.
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On 4/22/2003
Sam
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R.ene. Yes, thanks for your reply. By fronside, I mean toeside, face down, hands down. I am wearing pads and sliding gloves. I guess my problem is to do with weighting. Maybe more weight is on the back foot so I don't end up sliding straight. In the regular "backside" slide, I think it helps that you can SEE what you're doing. With the frontside, you've just gotta feel it. Anyway, I'll put my old shoes on and try again tomorrow!
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On 4/22/2003 Gaz
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re:DROPINS
Anyone interested in coming(and helping me)
look here http://www.middle-age-shred.com then look in news.
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On 4/22/2003 psYch0Lloyd
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Gaz: Before you get on the ramp/bowl, take some time to try to imagine yourself right there at the moment as you go through the motions (it's always good to have observed a successful drop in before hand). Close your eyes and open your mind, then go through the steps of putting your deck's tail on the edge, placing your feet where you want them on the board, bend your knees, then when you're ready lean forward pivoting on the tail (Commit to it now!) -don't go forward whilst leaning back! Your body is a pendulum the arc of the ride is the transition, follow through and then go up the other side...
...now get on that ramp/bowl and do it.
Oh yeah, don't close your eyes this time!
Knucklehead virtual skateboarding team
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On 4/22/2003 sk8 jam in uk
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where is the event - and as for tips - wear a lot of padding so you have less fear!
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On 4/22/2003
Gaz
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DROPINS
I am going to a skate jam this week(in UK) and I want to master 'drop ins' to a bowl or 1/2pipe.
Any tips so I don't kill myself?
Thanks
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On 4/21/2003 R.ene
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Sam--by frontside, do you mean surfer frontside (face down, or toeside turn) or skater frontside (face up, or heelside turn). Are you looking for standing slide or hands-down? If you are looking for heelside hands-down, that's also called a coleman--there is a ton of info on it. if its toeside hands-down (or push-up slide), I actually find them very instinctive. Look uphill, get your butt down, and push with your legs. I don't know why you'd be spinning out, but maybe your shoulders/center/legs are getting out of whack. You should try to get perpendicular to the board and stay that way. Might also be that you're not going fast enough. Hope you're wearing pads and sliders, anyways.
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On 4/21/2003
Sam
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I just searched the Riding Techniques pages for advice on frontside slides and found a few people asking about how to do them, but no answers! So who can help me? When I try to slide frontside, the board shoots away from me and I end up sliding down the road on hands and feet. Any advice would be appreciated...
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On 4/21/2003 R.ene
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Hey Tom and Joe,
how's the sliding going?
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On 4/15/2003 R.ene
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http://www.bobstricktips.com/tricktips/spacewalk.shtml
voila le "spacewalk".
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On 4/15/2003 space cadet
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thx ;-)
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On 4/14/2003 toddc
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HC, it's called the "spacewalk"
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On 4/14/2003 hc
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now, if only (i can write)..
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