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Topic Discuss the Movie
Dogtown Fact or Fiction
On 5/9/2005 Eddy wrote in from United States  (207.69.nnn.nnn)

Way before the Documentary or upcoming movie many of us teenagers back in the 70s imitated the moves and the style of the Z-Boys. It was a time that came and went, but for those of us who lived through those times and waited for Skateboarder Magazine to hit the newstands. All I can say is it was a blast. Now in my 40s I am still STOKED that I can ride again and share the same comaradarie with my friends. Were most of the stories that I read fact or fiction back then, who cares. I know that it left an impression on a kid who loved to skate. Those of you who never got it, never will. For me it is all about the STOKE. Eddy Texas Outlaws.

 
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Lords Of Dogtown
On 5/9/2005 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

I think that Dogtown & Z-Boys will be a better documentary and that Lords of Dogtown will be a better fictional movie. How's that for going out on a limb?

Let's be realistic here. Neither the documentary nor the movie are meant to be "real". They are both a reflection of what one person (Stacy) wants to say about the events surrounding the Z-Boys in the seventies. I hope no one went to Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 believing that they were seeing the "real" history
of the United States because it was a documentary. I like what Stacy has done, and I believe that he is as open and honest as he needs to be to make a very entertaining and interesting documentary, and to write a very entertaining screenplay. Both pieces of work can stand on their own nicely, and it is wholey futile to suggest that one or the other is unnecessary, better or worse. Which are better, oranges or carrots? Grape juice or wine?

I've watched the Price Is Right (and all of our dogs are neutered) and so I'll guess that the opening weekend will do $27,000,001 and beat MB. If more people find out that Hackett and I are in it, $29M.

 
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Preview screenings
On 5/9/2005 Beth wrote in from United States  (63.191.nnn.nnn)

Any idea if there will be previews of the movie on the East Coast?

 
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Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew
On 5/9/2005 EBasil wrote in from United States  (63.206.nnn.nnn)

Good grief, quit with the spatting over nothing and go enjoy the movie, for whatever it turns out to be!

I just hope the soundtrack has more Herb Alpert...I laughed out loud when that came out of the theatre speakers during a Z-Boys screening. A bunch of younger "folk" from a radio station turned around and looked at me with a quizzical, "WTF is funny?" look. I guess that's similar to the look I'll have when something off my new Green Day CD shows up in a movie set in the '70's. Ho ho.

Public preview screenings in San Diego, May 17 and June 1.

 
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wich is better
On 5/9/2005 glenn wrote in from United States  (68.0.nnn.nnn)

what do u think will end up being better the original doc. dogtown and zboys or the new movie lords of dogtown. i have a feeling that the doc. might be better becuase it tells what happend from the acual people instead of a scipt wich isnt the what they said 30 yrs ago but the movies still gonna be sweet i just hope nasty emo kids or what hackett would say vegan freaks in my shcool who never thought about skateing start trying and buying alva boards and shirt and powell peralta reissues. there only 3 kids in my school who buy older style boards and thats me and 2 of my freinds

 
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Opening weekend
On 5/9/2005 Mike Brönnimann wrote in from Switzerland  (62.2.nnn.nnn)

21.6 million what a stupid way of discussing the movie... but if you only want to bet about opening bugs... whatever... here's my guess. If Hacket says it's good, it's all good. He's been there, done that.

 
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The Man and his living
On 5/9/2005 EPS wrote in from United States  (162.136.nnn.nnn)

Now that doesn't suck.

Hackett seems pretty cool to me.

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie with my crazy-assed bro then skating somewhere in the dark.

 
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FINALLY, A MAN AND HIS OPINION.
On 5/8/2005 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from United States  (68.71.nnn.nnn)

Nice post Pete Roy.

I like your style...

A name, an email, and a measurable valid opinion;
BACKED by a real person. - Bitchin.

For that; email me your address Pete, and I will
send you a new Deathbox Deck; because I can-

I do this for a living.

HACKETT - BLR - DEATHBOX

 
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Kook Shut up!
On 5/8/2005 Adrian wrote in from United States  (66.214.nnn.nnn)

And the Moderator pulls Mark amd my posts. And this kook can knock Friedman and Hackett. You gotta be kinding me. Any one who cant post there name on a web site is and always well be a poser. Who cares about you any ways. Your mommy is calling you home. Kook. A movie is just that a movie. You should worry about yourself. Sounds like you have alot of problems. You must live in a every small world. Grow up. I'm looking forward to the movie, looks fun.

 
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suck
On 5/8/2005 pete roy wrote in from United States  (207.200.nnn.nnn)

jealousy or just wierd dudes?

obviously some of you have issues with hack, he's very outspoken.
But the jealousy really seems to be what comes through in the posts.

Weiner - you suck because you have no credibility and talk, but don't let
people know who you are. Very weak and just plain senseless.
Best bet - you're girlfriend liked the hackett's when you sucked.

Tom T. - Many great posts from Tom on other forums and has left his
left his email address before. Tom just don't like Hackett. Tom you
suck because for some reason you let this get to you. Hahahahahahaha!

Webmaster - you just suck for deleting what you want.

People are people and can have opinions - the anger by Tom and Weiner just
adds up to jealousy. Very strange because I'd bet they are both over 40. But
then again not strange because Hack's doing something he loves for a living
and I'd bet the other two "go to work everyday".

11.5 million in the first weekend.

 
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Glen Friedman
On 5/7/2005 SkateandSlamSam wrote in from United States  (69.105.nnn.nnn)

Wasn't he that nice skinny little rich jewish mamma's boy wanna' be skater turned photographer who copied everything that Craig Stecyk did?

I think he is a vegan Hack.

Hack, what BALLS you had back then to wear your G&S "colors" at the DogBowl!

Damn, who can top that?

 
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THANKS!
On 5/7/2005 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from United States  (68.71.nnn.nnn)

THANKS "BIG FAT WEINER IN YOUR MOUTH"!

(That's THE perfect name for you!)

I said it once; I'll say it again-

Don't ever believe some little weiner
who dosn't have a ball sack to post his real name
OR email address. Probably one of those Vegan Freaks
who can't get a hard on any more. Eat my MEAT Bitch.

Love you!

HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING

PS-(I Rode Arthurs' too) But then, you knew that
too...you were probably the one who named it "MAN-HOLE"

BWAHHHHH!!!

PPS- Is Glen Friedman a Vegan?

 
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TOTAL KOOK
On 5/7/2005 BIG FAT WEINER IN YOUR MOUTH wrote in from United States  (24.44.nnn.nnn)

Never said your name in the post or this one. The funny thing was how they guy knows he's a kook, and goes through the motions of trying to sell everyone his lies of self deception that anyone knew or cared about him in the days of the dogbowl (or ever for that matter).
P.C. and Peralta were both G&S members too, this is true, but would you ever see guys who really were on the team as pros wear their uniform anywhere other than a contest or demo? not likely, not even Peralta wore his 'colors' at the DogBowl.
Paul Hacket (RIP) was rad no doubt, but his relative is just a wanna be, always has been always will be a wanna be. Can't tell the truth and can't even take a real truthful criticism on a website, and has it taken down because it's all true! ... frontside carve??? haaa! as if! look at the back foot and hand placement, and that still does not explain no coping even if it was true - poor guy

- the troll with his ass-hole pressed against your mouth tough guy

the 1st note in case you missed it before it was CENSORED of the site:

first of all the film was ok, not great by any stretch of the imagination.

Some kook below said he was there and has a gay picture of himself not even hitting coping at the dogbowl, wearing that kooked out GOD SQUAD (G&S) uniform with the bright yellow collered shirt and red OP's that most would only wear in a contest when forced to, unless of course you just were a wannabe kook, that only got to skate the DogBowl when no one else was around (evidence that picture compared with most of the other good ones you might see around with all the DT boys and dogs around). So obviously his opinion ain't worth a doo-doo.

Anyway back to the film: it is "Hollywood" on a medium budget, going with that in mind and not the REAL story, as pure entertainment for kids, you may be able to see beyond all of it's faults. Even people who weren't "there" who saw the Documentary may be dissapointed by it's "based on a true story' theme since much of it is pure "story", not reality. And indeed some of the scenes will make you cringe, but after seeing it a 2nd time i could admit it did not totally suck and was pretty fun. One thing I will agree with that the kook wrote was that the kid who played Jay did do a great job (too bad that's not him, but his skate double in the photo.) If you love the trailer like I did you may also like the movie, but if you were turned off even by the trailer you don't want to go to the theater for this one.

 
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NO YOU!
On 5/7/2005 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from United States  (68.71.nnn.nnn)

No, You are right, Tom t.

SO right, you are nothing. No real name.

No real email address...No Balls...

No history, No Future,

NOTHING!

Thanks!

I love you too!

HACKETT - SMELLING GNARLY-ER THAN YOU TOO!

 
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Hackett
On 5/7/2005 tom t wrote in from Canada  (64.228.nnn.nnn)

Yo Hackett
You were there. We are Nothing. Your self-styled supremacy over All Things Skateboarding is really starting to smell. Do us a favor and go talk to someone about why you always have to be right.

 
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TOTAL KOOK
On 5/6/2005 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from United States  (68.71.nnn.nnn)

Don't ever believe some little weiner
who dosn't have a ball sack to post his real name
OR email address. Probably one of those Vegan Freaks
who can't get a hard on any more. Eat my MEAT Bitch.

He for sure was NOT there. Nor can he skate.
If he could skate he would know I am doing a FS
(That stands for "FRONTSIDE", Kook!) carve in that
photo.

And Yes, I got to skate the DogBowl many times WITH
all the Boyz AND with only a couple bro's- Like my
Bro "PC", or Paul constantineau who was also sponsored
by G&S or The "GodSquad" along with Stacy Peralta and my
brother Paul (RIP) who you can see in the shallow end of
that photo.

VERY FEW GOT TO RIDE THAT POOL WITH ONLY A COUPLE BROS.

I admit, it's not the best photo I have of me riding the DogBowl.
I'm saving those for my new book, titled "I WAS THERE - YOU WERN'T
KOOK" - HA HA HA!!


Any troll can get on here anonymously and post
stupid sh!t like that hating on me; usually they
are the ones who wish they were like me...

I'm flattered. Just for your effort tough guy;
YOU WIN THE "TOTAL KOOK - LITTLE WEINER AWARD"!

Image hosted by TinyPic.com

Congratulations! Great Job!

And thanks for keeping my name out there!

All the best!

HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING


ps- The movie is great! :)

 
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lords
On 5/6/2005 Mark J wrote in from United States  (65.60.nnn.nnn)

Personally, I can't wait to see this movie.
I'm wondering about the marketing. Michael Brooke had posted
some marketing #'s in the millions. I'm just not seeing it I
guess. I haven't seen the trailer on TV (I saw it on the net after
hunting it down) or anything in magazines. I thought there would have
been an add in the new CW seeing that it was the last issue before the
movie is released.
Has their marketing plan just not started yet?

 
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dog bowl
On 5/6/2005 dfij wrote in from United States  (131.109.nnn.nnn)

in the picture of hacket is that the dogbowl

 
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Longboard in Dogtown & Z-Boys
On 5/5/2005 Jack wrote in from United States  (66.82.nnn.nnn)

And your point is what...herbn?

 
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Dogtown
On 5/5/2005 Sarah wrote in from United States  (207.200.nnn.nnn)

*** "My question is do the kids these days actually care what happened with skateboarding thirty ago?"

I, myself care about what happened 30 yrs ago. Anyone who skates or at least likes watching ppl who skate would wanna watch this anyways. I watched Dogtown & Z-boys and i can't wait to watch the lords of dogtown. That would be pretty stupid for someone not to know the stories of skateboarding. I know im gonna go see the movie ASAP! The preview gave me goosebumps!

 
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longboards
On 5/5/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

i think there was one longboard for less than 5 seconds in dt+zb

 
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kids watching it
On 5/5/2005 glenn wrote in from United States  (68.0.nnn.nnn)

hey im 16 now i saw the movie when i was either 14 or 15 and it changed me for life diffenly i usaly skate with my dad freinds who are like 40 so iv been around more old school type boards but i wanted to learn flip tricks and stuff but one year i got a longboard for xmas and i rode it didnt realy care for it untill DOGTOWN AND ZBOYS!!!! that movie was so awsome and it made me forget about street and i did exacly what they did to larry bertle man witch was to imitate the style on my longboard wich made me a little better at it but now alls i like was old school skates like the zboys mostyly and i dont dont like street at all its all about the past the skating is so much cooler. and next sat im im so excited becuas im going to a slalom thing in ct and ruml is gonna be there so i care about what happend in dogtown 30 yrs ago

 
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dogtown
On 5/5/2005 jkb wrote in from United States  (68.50.nnn.nnn)

My question is do the kids these days actually care what happened with skateboarding thirty ago?

It seems to me that Jumping stairwells and sliding down bannisters is what the majority of the kids are into these days. Will the movie be radikal enough to satisfy the minds of teenagers or will they expect more.

I’m look foreword to it. 10.5 mill

 
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Dogtown and Z-Boys
On 5/4/2005 Robbie wrote in from United States  (68.7.nnn.nnn)

Anyone who has not seen Dogtown and Z-Boys should go out and see it. i highly recommend seeing it before seeing Lords of Dogtown so you can really know the backgrounds of all of these guys and how they truly changed the sport of skateboarding. and MikeR dont listen to people if they call you a poser. You are doing what you love to do, so just dont listen.

i predict 14 and a half million on the opening weekend...

 
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fad?
On 5/4/2005 Lumpy wrote in from United States  (204.120.nnn.nnn)

If you can even barely stand on a deck and have fun skating you're not a poser. Even if you were, who cares.
Will it change skateboarding? Did Blue Crush or Big Wednesday change surfing? Not really. It may open the eyes of some kids to new possibilities, some will think it's lame and will goof on anyone who skates "oldschool". I really don't care what anyone thinks. Mike V. has a show on Fuel where he goes around the country, he was skating a basketball court and doing low surf style carves, g-turns, surf inspired, off the lip style kickturns, and mixed it all up with regular street. It was awesome. A great blending of oldschool style and current street tricks.
It's hard to predict how kids will take the movie. Hopefully it will inspire more kids to adapt the Mike V. style of skating.

I look forward to it, it'll be fun to see.

 
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