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Assembly
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On 5/27/2007 Nicky
wrote in from
United States
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Hey...bought a longboard with randal trucks and wedge risers for my husband and am trying to assembly it for his birthday. I put it together but the board goes in the opposite direction. What an I doing wrong? The trucks are on with the kingpins facing eachother and the risers only go on one way..... I am lost. HELP!
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the wave / x board / ess board
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On 4/27/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
I am surprised seeing this board at costco, sport authority, big 5
never thought it would sell well...
guess i am wrong..
someone told me the inventor is korean and homeless before hitting big with this invention.
"Well, the X-Board guys took their board to the annual INPEX convention on May 12 - 15. INPEX is America’s largest invention trade show, and the X-Board came out with three gold medals - in the Sports area, Recreation area and Toys & Games area. The X-Board also took the 2004 Grand Prix prize, and won Best Invention for the Americas in 2004!!"
http://www.streetsurfing.com/
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spawn of pumgo
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On 4/24/2007 peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
since this place seems to have taken a recent sharp psychotic turn toward the deviant side of mass-marketed skate sludge, I present you a recent evil finding:
make it stop...
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/booster-blades-honorable-suicide-254319.php
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before pumgo
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On 4/9/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
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http://www.streetsurfer.com/
(powerboard)
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pumpin or pimpin?
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On 3/30/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
I saw this thing when it came out, and LAUGHED, for quite awhile, too. ;-D
Ilove the 'see-saw motion claim; Ever endo hangin' ten?, yeah, that'll Work...
Even their claim of being the first 'push-free' skateboard is IMHO, bogus. My first 'push-free' deck was a fiberglass Hobie, equipped with Speed Springs and Pacers. That thing (and this was '75) would literally climb hills just gyrating, and IF that failed, just Tic-Tac (or Moonwalk if you're able). Granted, my Bahne from two years previous was maybe the better board, but it came with Bahne trucks and Road-Rider #2's; not so fast, though agile enuff.
So, Pumping a board for motion, using surf-type turning motions, has been around since, well, before I was born, before Vietnam was a war-zone. Some folk just gotta use Hype. I'm with CY on this; I'll stick with a good ol' Skateboard...
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Adam's http://www.pumgo.com/
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On 3/30/2007 Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
wow. more funky crap ! looks like a scream for a few minutes... i'll stick to a conventional skateboard.. thanks!
cYa
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pumping foot
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On 3/30/2007
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
On 3/21/2007 Nick wrote in from United States (128.82.xxx.xxx) Help me out, I just recently got a new Krown longboard and for no reason that I can think of my pumping foot is killing me. I've skated before and this has never happened to me. Whats wrong? any doctors in the house?
no doctor here but you mention "pumping foot". I pump with both feet so i'm not sure what you are talking about. www.pumpyourdeck.com .. is that the pumping you are talking about? if you have one pumping foot, perhaps you aint pumpin right ...
cYa
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OUCH!
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On 3/21/2007
Nick
wrote in from
United States
(128.82.nnn.nnn)
Help me out, I just recently got a new Krown longboard and for no reason that I can think of my pumping foot is killing me. I've skated before and this has never happened to me. Whats wrong? any doctors in the house?
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Footstops
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On 3/21/2007 Juan M
wrote in from
Venezuela
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Hello PSR could be possible to post a pic of your footstop.
Thanks
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Footstops
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On 3/16/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
Cam, you'd want to use the left bolt holes; The L. rear would put you slightly behind the truck's axle; The L. front would put your foot right over the axle (and in slalom, often just a tad Too Far forward), but your smallest toe will 'lead' the axle. Best bet, really, is not to use the truck holes, but instead use a 5mm or 6mm T-nut, covered by a thin foam (or Dooks) riser (with a cutout for the T-nut), and bolt the block on to that. This lets you put that block exactly where it feels best(usually somewhere between the front/rear bolts of the front truck), plus it won't tweak any mounting hardware.
A good way to figure out your best foot placement would be to use sticky-back Surfboard foam bits on top of the griptape. Don't trust them to stay put very long, but that'll at least let you kinda figure where that toe-block is most effective and comfortable.
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footstops
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On 3/16/2007
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(208.64.nnn.nnn)
I used old truck bushings (two stacked) and found the front-most left bolt hole to be idea for my foot size/placement.
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footstops
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On 3/16/2007
cam
wrote in from
Australia
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hey if im regular footed, what bolt hole should i put my footstop through
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pumping setup
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On 3/13/2007 Daniel M.
wrote in from
United States
(66.210.nnn.nnn)
heres my pumping setup, what do you think?
sector 9 trilam, carver C7 front, standard carver back, 1/2 inch risers, 70 mm 75a nineballs
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Bennett/Tracker height
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On 3/12/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(208.5.nnn.nnn)
Chrys, expect around 3/16" more height from the Bennett, if you're running flat, no wedges. If you de-wedge the rear Tracker (more stability) , it'll actually sit a little lower that you'd expect for the 'nominal' height of the wedge riser. You'll probably have a slight nose-up attitude with the board if using similar sized blocks/wedges front+rear. This actually isn't a bad thing if you Skog on trails that have uphill sections, as you get better push-off leverage with a taller nose.
Best thing here is to play the 'shim + wedge game', go get some Dooks or similar thin risers, and a Khiro Rail Wedge Kit (which has a whole slew of riser height/angles in it), and some extra Long screws from the hardware store. Warning; Tinkering with the wedge and height combos may take a few trys to get things settled in where it all works out, so be patient. It's worth the hassle. Having a board set-up just right makes for big grins afterward!
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Bennetts 'n' Roe LDP
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On 3/11/2007
Chrys
wrote in from
United States
(72.183.nnn.nnn)
PSR-thanks for your input.
To keep it easy I bought that Tracker RTS 129mm to go behind the Bennett 5.0 front. That way I can keep running four Gumballs on that deck. No back wheels sticking out too far and 2mm width difference I won't even notice. I think the Tracker will be a better back for the Roe LDP deck than a matching Bennett. Those Bennetts are so turny. It would need more work to make a suitable back than the Tracker,I think. Is the height of the Tracker and the Bennett close?
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Cruiser truck/wheel widths
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On 3/11/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
Chrys, if you run a center-set bearing wheel (Manx,Grippin,Zig-Zag) at the rear, and Flashbacks/Avalons up front, the widths would just about match up. For Skogging, cruising, or just fast pumping, you don't want the wheels sticking out too far (can catch on the shoes when kick-pushing hard), but you'll want Some extra Width, just for stability. Besides, you're not trying to cut it close to a cone in pumping turns, so have some wheel poking out isn't going to be a real big issue...
The Gulls should be a nice rear with the Bennetts, and might not even need any de-wedging. However, pay attention to the bushing selection, and perhaps change the pivot cushion to a Hard Khiro or Hard Tracker to give it a smooth light turn-in. The soft pivots kinda gum up, and create a good deal of turn-in resistance, and will make a truck feel 'dead'.
The rear truck that would match up really well (same wheels on all 4 corners) with the Bennett front would be a Tracker Dart/RTS 129mm. The Gullwing is pretty close in overall feel, just wider and lower, so it should be fine.
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Bennetts 'n' Roe LDP
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On 3/10/2007
Chrys
wrote in from
United States
(72.183.nnn.nnn)
So I've got the Roe LDP deck (not the new Mermaid) and I had Splitfire 107mm on there but they just went on my AXE II for slalom. So I'm thinking Bennetts 5.0 for pumping fun but I'm wondering if I need the back one or not. I have a Gullwing Super Pro III truck that has a hanger width of 150mm and is a bent pivot hanger kind of like a Tracker. The Bennett 5.0 is 127mm for the front. I'm kind of thinking that the back gets dewedged so it doesn't turn much anyway so maybe a non Bennett might be better in back than a turny Bennett that has to be dewedged to hell and made a lot less turny. Will the 150mm back be too wide? Will the two different trucks be an f'ed up combination? Tell me what you know. Thanks.
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snakeboard
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On 3/7/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
correction to my post,
'top speed and short distance'
Long distance, I would put my money on peters ;-)
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Kickbiking
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On 3/7/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
adam, shouldn't there be a pushing forum? ;-)
I still haven't master the art of pushing with my weak leg.
but seem like these guys would blow any skaters away...
Kickbiking Competition in Finland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2i9GhU0aME
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snakeboard
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On 3/7/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
for the flats, I have a feeling snakeboards are faster than a skateboard in acceleration (no contest from dead stop), sprint, top speed and distance. (although I never got very good with mine)
but on a slalom course with decent hills, I think skateboard would win, I have never seen downhill snakeboard footage, (but I know there's a guy in europe that goes downhill on snakeboard) ...
watch this guy showing good form on acceleration...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=739A-MrCbq0&mode=related&search=
snakeboard micro slalom...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1oTgtO1YSM
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why even stand and pump...
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On 2/23/2007 peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
when you can just sit and skate? :-O
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pumgo
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On 2/22/2007
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(208.64.nnn.nnn)
Why bother to learn to pump a skateboard when all you need is one of these.. http://www.pumgo.com/ ;)
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snaker
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On 2/17/2007 peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
is this the kind of board he's riding? i'd be curious what average kph he keeps it going! call it Long Distance Squiggle? ;-)
http://www.mtbz.com/images/snakeboard_skinner_200.jpg
# Length 29" - # Width 10" - # X-bar Length 22" - # Wheels 62mm
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offset cyber
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On 2/17/2007
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
Ravn - sounds like an interesting experiment! I keep seeing kids wiggling 'Wave' boards down the trail lately, funny little boards. The snakeboards are faster, but it'll be interesting if you can get your buddy to clock some times, and post some pics of that setup!!
Here's a little viddy of some Offset Cyber and random LDP footage that's been kickin' around. Flatland offsets really get your pump dialed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTnXVolGfb4
Off to skate, cheers!
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Re: snakeboard
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On 2/14/2007
ravn
wrote in from
Germany
(195.37.nnn.nnn)
I found a snakeboarder who is willing to do the cyber mile when the weather allows. I saw him skating indoors on flywheels and it did indeed look fast. From the people I saw in the streets, I always believed the snakeboard to be something fun at low speeds, but I'm apparently wrong and it should be well suited for LD"P". It's just got a tough learning curve in comparison to a longboard pumping setup.
We agreed to skate a longer distance together some time and compare the general speed, muscle fatigue and ergonomy issues. When seeing each other pump, we were both convinced that the other's technique must be terrible for the knees. ;) I'm looking forward to find that out, and I definitely have to practise on a snakeboard.
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How to Pump