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Q&A: Chris Yandall on Skogging (417 Posts)
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Skoggin Rules!!
On 1/4/2006 Darren wrote in from United Kingdom  (62.173.nnn.nnn)

No Way I have been "Skoggin" for years and didn't even know there had been a name coined for it.. I took to learning to push with the other foot when I hurt my knees and had to make do with the most basic of skateboarding..

So then what does everyone reckon is the more powerful way to push? Mongo or Regular? I say mongo for top speed and Regular for quicker acceleration (Well thats what I have discovered after loosing many a Downhill race from pushing regular and not switching to the almighty "mongo"

 
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lowered boards
On 1/4/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

I have asked the question about lowered boards a few times already myself. It just makes more sense for long distance alternate leg pushing. The lower CG is not only more stable but also much easier on the knees. Those of us in the "50's and over" club need to be thinking about this a little more as we keep our long term skating goals in mind!
I am finding that my cf/wood Landy DH set up with wheels no larger than 76mm, I'm currently running gumballs, is a very comfortable choice for long, smooth, fast alternate leg pumping on the flats. On rolling terrain this board can handle 35 kmph downhills with total confidence so again it is my first choice when doing my 20 km 'workout' skate which includes hill bombs, flatland alternate leg pushing and some great 'interval training' type uphill pushes as well.

 
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Lower Boards??
On 1/3/2006 Rob wrote in from United States  (199.181.nnn.nnn)

Wow, that's great that you use originals! I was skating a 48" with orginals on the bike path's last summer and I thought I was going crazy and couldn't explain why I liked it so much.

I was wondering what you think of lowered/dropthrough boards for long distance riding though, for the whole ease of pushing, etc? I used a lowered Landyatchz DH race for the Central Park race last year (8 miles) because I wanted the stability for the downhill sections, and noticed it was alot easier to push, but the concave killed my feet over time. I currently have a friend building me a flat dropthrough board for downhill/long distance.

I also noticed that Jack Smith and his crew used Rolls Rolls on the Skate across America, and Adam Colton used dropped platform boards on his long distance trip too.

I was just wondering what your opinion is on this type of board for skogging?

 
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Rene's pic "samoan squat cheater 5"
On 12/31/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (70.95.nnn.nnn)

Hi Rene! you big ball of skating love :D

I'll catch up with you at the ASR.
when you come down, i'll show you a good skog. i'll buy the sodas!

talk to me Rene'! NICE seeing you still on your board. skaters over 50 are endangered species. i hope more of us senior citizen skaters keep in shape for our industry that is definitely maturing.




cYA



 
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You old Skogger you........
On 12/31/2005 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.134.nnn.nnn)




Chris Y. - - - "TaLoFa" !


BIG CONGRATZ - on your own forum -
well deserved !

I actually used some 'skogging' IN MY FREESTYLE ROUTINES
when I was doing Pepsi Demo's .....Ray Flores, too.

When I would set-up for tricks ...many times kids would say -
"What is he doing?"
-then I would explain 'skogging' - but don't worry Chris - -
I ALWAYS gave you PROPS - as the cat who made it famous!


Chris - check out this 'CHEATER-5' Samoan Squat!

BELOW: DARYL GROGAN @ SK8KINGS SK8JAM - H. B.

PHOTO: By Cannonball.



....hey - I'll see you @ 2006 ASR in a couple of weeks.


BELOW: ASR - LAST YEAR.

RENE C...DAVID C...CHRIS YANDALL...AND RANDY CARRASCO.




Take care, Chris -
-you fellow Tracker Trucks 'LIFETIME TEAM MEMBER'!


........-Rene Carrasco.
WWW.RENECARRASCO.COM

Image hosted by Photobucket.com





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more old school ....
On 12/30/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)


:D

cYa Spank

the speed is like taking an aspirin when dealing with irate spouses!

i'ma love ZUKI!!!


 
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Skogger
On 12/29/2005 Old school images wrote in from United States  (71.107.nnn.nnn)

 
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"skateboard trucks" and old eyes
On 12/28/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

woops. i need to reread my stuff before I post.. :D

my english is not so good :P

cYa

 
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Smarty Pants
On 12/28/2005 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

Skat Boards and Track Trucks. Hmm. Either my Google isn't googling or I'm a Torri at spelling.

 
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freeak out
On 12/28/2005 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

cool, we're kinda used to that reaction ;-)

 
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Tracker Trucks Website Link to Skogging Here
On 12/28/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

Things to do list. I own the tracktrucks.com domain and will spice up the front page for ncdsa.com a bit.

when you type in "skatboard trucks" into google, they come up in the top5 usually. hard work from 1997 got them there.

if you guys havent heard, I run webservers and develop large scale websites for the computer industry mostly but can do just about anything. i got the hookups on servers around the world and can register domains for less than 10 bucks on a managed system plus you get me :D






 
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Skogging Decks and RJ
On 12/28/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

really? tracker buys them from me. do they know something I don't ?

:D

cYa

 
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Chris Yandall
On 12/28/2005 RJ wrote in from United States  (63.197.nnn.nnn)

The 38" Chris Yandall decks I believe can be bought from solidskate.com under boards by Tracker.

 
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Totally Skumped and Skogged to the Max
On 12/28/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

EHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHH.

THAT SKUMPING PAGE IS FREAKING ME OUT ;D

pushing with both legs to get from A to Z seems to the cross country aspect of skatebooarding. As with skiing, cross country skiis are a different beast and as with skateboarding, my personal quiver is just a simple 38" deck cambered/concave.


when i skog, i sometimes get very low to maximize my strides for high speeds. right now my set up on a 38" are original trucks with gumballs. the trucks are insanely loose :D so skogging feels like a tight rope ride requiring precision centering of one's self over the board for each stroke. And when I'm ready to crank some insane tight turns, these originals put a smile on my face. It all adds up to a great aerobic exercise for me. And it makes jogging look somewhat archaic, if not, obsolete :D

So here we are yakking it up but the more and more I talk about it, the more and more I want to jump on the damn thing and kick out some skogging vibrations for the planet to feel.

i soooo need to get some pro video's up on this stuff. at times when I'm backing down off of a high speed lengthly skog, I'll go into some dan gessmer ballet-like moves to rotate the weight around the tight rope ride.

Dan's my hero!
Is Nike ready for a skogging shoe?

cheers
Chris Yandall

p.s. Jack, when in San Diego, ring me up! call the business number 858 748 6405 . Anyone in San Diego want to hook up? stevie ? :D Tum Yeto freaks? I live up in Poway, I have mira Mar lake to cruise and my gf lives down in PB where I've recently have been spending more time. She's on blades and I'm stroking my 38" all over the boardwalk.











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cheers!
On 12/28/2005 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Congrats on the new forum Chris!

Skumping and skogging live alongside each other quite well. In fact I think in distance events, the style choice will boil down to this:

1. Skumping + a few pushes up the nastier hills
2. Skogging + a few pumps
3. Fast, efficient 1-leg pushing (esp. for short distances)

I agree, speed is not the focus for the casual cruise with your buds. Though for me after skating the work commute solo 10+ times, a natural curiosity and desire to max efficiency surfaces...how fast am I going? Which is faster, pumping or pushing? The weekend warrior uses a one-footed fast and furious push quite well, and with the brute force of it, the 1-leg push is how most "win" marathon events. But longer distance on one leg is jarring and tiring ... and that's where skogging or skumping come into play.

I cannot skog well yet but am very interested in seeing the vids! I hope to make it to SoCal someday and hit the Strand with you guys -- it's where my skateboarding started decades ago!!

So this skumping page is my tribute to Yandall ;-)

Skog on!
jp

 
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Skogging the USA
On 12/28/2005 Jack wrote in from United States  (69.19.nnn.nnn)

Glad to see this forum and your website Chris.

I've used the skogging technique on all three of my skteboard rides across America. Heck, I don't even know which is my original push foot.

 
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skogging
On 12/28/2005 martin siegrist wrote in from Switzerland  (83.79.nnn.nnn)

to me it's the only reasonable way to travel a long distance on a skateboard. pushing with one foot only would be totally stupid and your body could get out of balance. better learn that mongo push :-)

 
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W000 H0000
On 12/27/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

Finally! A break in the action!

OK, my dream back in the mid-70's when I wrote the article "Cut the Jive and Jog", was that some day I would have equipment that would make propelling one's skateboard using both legs a thrilling exercise. I didn't come up with the skogging name way back then.

By being totally "centered" on your board and creating a gyroscope effect to swing one's weight from side to side while switching legs and moving at a nice clip(8-12mph is fine) is the fabric of skogging. I have seriously gotten massive calves and thighs from this discipline not to mention losing over 100lbs!

It by far had to be one of the hardest things to do knowing a simple definition, "switching legs" to propel, is the main objective.

Anyways, I had great skogs over the holidays here and my son got a few videos I'm tossing on www.skogging.com. Hopefully they'll be new there tonight. *sigh*

And again I welcome any video contributions(send mpgs or movs) to my gmail address.

So, everything from equipment to clothing, to trucks and wheels and decks will be our thread thrusts. I dont really care who is the fastest. I'd like to see who's got the cleanest stride and has the biggest smile while skogging.

Thanks Adam

Chris Yandall

p.s. someone is looking for 38" decks but my MFG charlie watson recently sold out to Tum Yeto and delays are going on. I'm sure by spring you'll see something cool.













 
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one more thing.....
On 12/27/2005 silversurfer wrote in from United States  (71.192.nnn.nnn)

Anyone who is not sure what skogging is should check out Chris's website on it,
www.skogging.com . It comprises the the best info currently available on skogging, like www.pavedwave.com does for skumping. This forum will hopefully be the vehicle by which Chris will impart his skumping knowledge of technique, equipment and other variables that will be invaluable to skaters and racers who are interested in covering 6 to 10 miles at a fast pace.

Currently there are several races throughout the country that have a 6 to 10 mile distance over mostly flat terrain. There is the annual nyc central park race, the portland pusher and Peter's and Munson's event. I belive that skogging has been a winning technique in the first two, and possibly the thrid as well (in rain conditions?)

Besides being a skogging master, Chris is also a pumping master and has info on that at www.pumpyourdeck.com but that is for another forum.

Were here to discuss skateboard jogging....

 
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oh yeah....
On 12/27/2005 silversurfer wrote in from United States  (71.192.nnn.nnn)

I believe that Biker Sherlock has the worlds skitching record.


And Chris Yandall do you have any of your 38 Special 38"x9.5" decks available?
I know that you had a couple of them available a while back and I think that it looks like a great shape. Please let me know - thanks.

- Eric

 
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Skogging, skumping and skitching...
On 12/27/2005 silversurfer wrote in from United States  (71.192.nnn.nnn)

Chris Yandall - Congrats on the new forum! I'm eager to see your views on equipment and techniques that are best for skogging. And a question was brought up on the pumping forum, for the 176 ft. trap would you push with one foot, skog (push alternating feet) or pump and which would be fastest?
And furthermore who would be faster, the fastest pusher or the fastest pumper?

Chris Chaput - I'm always happy to see you contributing your knowledge and expertise on the forums!

Skumping is basically long distance to extreme long distance skate pumping without touching a foot to the ground for miles. James Peters and Derek Munson
are the masters of this new discipline which is an alternative to skogging for long distance. I know that you guys, Chris Y. and Chris C. are probally among the top skaters in pushing and pumping (no inuendo intended :) and so is James peters. Although his primary focus is on long distance pumping he has recently posted some excellent times in the trap and cyber slalom.
He pushed through the trap on a rolls rolls with 101mm flywheels and posted an impressive cyberslalom time on a different board on the same day. He has some videos and descriptions of various pumping, skumping and pushing set ups that he has tried on his website www.pavedwave.com .

And a question for both Chris's and anyone else who has an opinion. What is the ideal wheel diameter and width for skogging? I guess that durometer would depend on the surface. But what would be the ideal diameter and width for medium to long distance racing? And would it matter if you were pushing or pumping?

Adam and Chris thanks for the new forum!

 
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Skumping?
On 12/27/2005 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

What is Skumping and when would you do that instead of Skogging? What about Skitching - does that make you lazy?

 
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YAY!
On 12/27/2005 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Congrat's on the forum Chris!

 
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Skogging
On 12/27/2005 RJ wrote in from United States  (63.197.nnn.nnn)

Look at me I'm the first person to answer my own question on this forum.


Skogging (ska-ging) verb

The act of skateboarding
combined with jogging.
example: "I'm going skogging
because life's too short."

 
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Skogging?
On 12/27/2005 RJ wrote in from United States  (63.197.nnn.nnn)

I'm sorry Chris if I seem ignorant, but what is skogging exactly?

 
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