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travel
On 9/11/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Hugh - you could squeeze that bag past the flight attendants as a carry on? I thought it was over the size limit...??? I wouldn't be as concerned if I could take them carry on, but the flights are usually full, and not enough room in the overheads anyway.... (not to mention potentially too long??)

ps - still waiting for the sewing machine pics.... :)

waxfoot

 
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postal tags
On 9/11/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

No doubt, take Herbn up on his offer - stolen stuff from the USPS is a federal offense....

 
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Uhmw
On 9/10/2000 Herbn wrote in from (208.192.nnn.nnn)

I'll sell you uhmw ,in lots of nifty colors for about 6-8 bucks a square foot + shipping ,so you don't have to risk serving 5-25 on stealing postal supplies:)

 
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Slider glove plastic
On 9/9/2000 Pre-School Rider wrote in from (209.198.nnn.nnn)

I'm not sure this is legal..I found that the U.S. Mail has these nifty tags they use on bulk mail bags,which are 3"x5" pieces of UHDPE plastic.They're perfect for cutting down to fit the palms of slider gloves,+ two fingers,each.Take one to make six fingers,so you use three-four per pair of gloves.Just don't tell Uncle Sam where the tags went..

 
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airplane bag
On 9/8/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Waxfoot,

For a carry on I wouldn't hesitate to use this bag...

As far as letting bagage guys handle it... no way, not even with padding. I would want something much more toss resistant and with great big locks... HR

 
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Foam for waxfoot
On 9/8/2000 Hamm wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

waxfoot,
PE is polyethylene, the same stuff that 80% of the worlds bodyboards are made out of. Contact Turbo Surf Designs over in Honolulu. They(and many other outfits in Hawaii) sell the materials to make bodyboards and probably have a ton of the stuff. Tell them you want to buy the PE that they use to make 'deck skins'. I don't have a issue of Bodyboarding sitting on my desk here at work, so I don't have they're phone number in front of me. I'll try to remember to forward that to you this weekend.
Dave

 
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Hamm and egg on Dave
On 9/7/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Sorry Hamm / Dave, couldn't resist. Your comment on working in the packaging industry and having access to foam caught my eye. As I'm sure you've seen in my past posts, I'm on a quest to try and make myself a bag, if it doesn't work out to be ridiculously more expensive than just buying one, that is. I think I've found my supplier for Cordura and potentially zippers, but my problem is the padding. The best thing I can think of are the closed-cell foam sleeping pads that you see in REI, Campmor, etc. Not the fancy self inflating ones - I'm talking the hard-ish blue ones that don't have any sort of cover or coating on them. But at $7 a pop, and probably needing at least 2 or 3 for a bag.... I was curious about this 'PE' that you had. What sort of stuff is it? I don't recognize PE from anything in my memory banks. Is it cheap? Expensive? I know you guys probably get it in bulk if you're in the industry, but how much would some of that cost, if you knew?

Question for both you and Hugh - you have this bag in your grubby little hands - would you pack it with your boards and gear and chuck it on an airplane? I know skateboards are tougher than surfboards, but preventing damage is still a concern of mine....

Mahalo
waxfoot

 
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boardbag
On 9/7/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Dave,

You just gave me an idea for my pix... I will stuff it full and take pictures that way...

As far as the weirdness goes, I guess that just goes to show that good taste is a common thing amongst us high thinkers! HR

 
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Travel Bag cont...
On 9/7/2000 Hamm wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Hugh,
This is getting weird. The DH, the Blacktip, the Longskate travel bag.......

 
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Travel Bag
On 9/7/2000 Hamm wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Oddly.... I too am now the pround owner of a Longskate.com travel bag.

I really like it. It easily holds my 2 biggest board and all my safety gear plus skate wrench & extra wheels, clean t-shirt etc. Construction and materials seem to be very high quality. Although designed to hold 2 boards, I could'nt resist the temptation to see how much I could shove in there. With some load planning, I was able to cram 4 boards in it. This feat can only be accomplished if you have 2 shorter boards that fit inside the wheelbase of your 2 longer boards. The padded shoulder strap is a nice feature too.

As I work in the packaging industry and have access to all kinds of foam, padding this bag will be easy venture for me.
We have 1/2" PE that comes in a 48" wide roll. I'll just cut about 25-30"'s of this foam and slide it in the bag, then slide my boards in the foam.

Big props to Rene and the longskate.com crew for the great service(as always)and for having the foresight to make a product that many others have overlooked.

Late
Dave

 
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waxy travel
On 9/6/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Alright Hugh, let me know how the Longskate bag works. It loads from the end??? I guess that way they save on those expensive long zippers? Let me know how much stuff you can cram in there and how easy or hard it is. The Longskate site says you can carry two boards and a helmet, with the side pocket for pads etc. - you say it might be tight with a helmet.... That picture on their website just doesn't do it justice.

I do hear that sewing machine calling my name Hugh. Not only do I want to make some stuff, but all my darned work clothes are falling apart amd my mom wouldn't let me steal her machine when I was there last month. :) If you send me some pics (or post them on your site, whichever is easier) so I can 'get a look at it', you just might have a buyer.

On the hard case deal, I still haven't had a chance to hit the local surplus store and their amazingly huge stack of ammo / misc. big metal boxes. Kind of big and clunky I know, and perhaps not as light and peachy as a nice plastic-type hardcase, but usually the price is right.... Maybe I can get down there on Friday before class.

Rene - I'm interested in your comments about the 1000 denier Cordura. Hugh mentioned 'ballistic' before, and I kind of went with it, but now that I think about it, I think there may be a difference between the regular 1000 stuff (usually only comes in black) and the 'ballistic' stuff. I have a Dana Designs backpack (some of the best packs out there IMHO) called the Bomb Pack that is made completely out of the stuff (regular 1000) and it is pretty near indestructible. Not that I've tried to beat it up mind you, but it's had it's share of airline abuse and it still looks new.... I'm a bit confused by the fraying and peeling that you mentioned about the ballistic - did they just come apart or burn through?? I can understand how tough conveyors can be on things - I've seen leather get burned through by getting caught in a belt. Why would the 600 be any tougher? Or is it that it's tough enough, and cheaper?

still on the search
waxfoot

 
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travel bag
On 9/6/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

I just got one of the Longskate.com soft side travel bags. Dave is right, it is a nice bag. It should hold two boards and some gear with out much problem... I'll let you know. I am going to pack it with some stuff tonight (I hope)... The boards load in from the end. There is a side pouch that is large enough for pads, gloves, etc... although a helmet would be an awkward fit.

There is no padding for Waxfoot, but it is large enough for one foam wrapped board, (I know, kinda defeats the purpose) but does beat the heck out of wrapping decks in a blanket! (I got that old singer calling your name dude... waxfoot... there it goes again)

As soon as I figure out how to make some photo's exciting (without using a girl; I run a family site) I will post them on my page...

I am still real interested in some hardside cases. Any of you guys out there work with plastics? HR

 
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1000 ballistic/rubber grip
On 9/5/2000 rene wrote in from (216.101.nnn.nnn)

Hey waxfoot...
the reason most co's don't use that material is that it tends to fray and peal off like fiberglass when u drag it along the sidewalk or conveyor belt, we tried that stuff long ago in the snowboard business didn't work so good, thats why we use the 600 denier for bags and so forth....
Good luck, if u do find other stuff that works let me know.

Lono, yeah we carry the deck material it's our own stuff, its a eva foam that's grooved with adhesive on the back it's like a huge sticker, 9"x60" in Black...email marc@longskate.com if u can't find it on the site...

cya guys....

 
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RUBBER GRIP TAPE
On 9/5/2000 Lono wrote in from (205.179.nnn.nnn)

Where can I get that rubber grip tape that is on that deck that's on the ad for Lonskate.com, which I saw in Intl. Longboarder?
I tried Longskate.com to no avail.

 
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Dave's Skateboard Box
On 9/2/2000 Blah wrote in from (209.245.nnn.nnn)

Haha, cool idea Hamm. But now I imagine you putting another truck on the box and making the box into an actual skateboard. You could call it the "Quiver", since it's a skateboard that holds skateboards.

 
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bag it
On 9/2/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Hugh - I got the website to load today - here it is
www.buschassociates.com
Minimum order of 10 yards, and if my impression is right, it is 60" wide.... Still working on the math... Have to get back to you about the sewing machine. I'll have to take a look at what is available these days and how much it is etc. etc. and do a monetary evaluation....

Hamm/Dave - good idea on the truck on one end and handle on the other. I was just by the local surplus store today (after they were closed unfortunately) and saw a bunch of ammo cans of all shapes and sizes stacked up. They might just have something that would suit the purpose. Of course soft sided is a whole lot less clunky to deal with....

ride on
waxfoot

 
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Travel box
On 9/1/2000 Hamm wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Waxfoot,
Something I forgot to mention about my little plywood box is that I put a old truck w/ wheels on one end and a handle on the other. I can drag it around with one hand.
Dave

 
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sewing machine
On 9/1/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Waxfoot,

I have an old singer industrial (late 50's early 60's), strong as a horse too. It will sew some pretty thick pieces if you go slow (3/8" or so)... If your really interested shoot me an e-mail and I'll take some pictures... HR

 
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travel
On 9/1/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Dave/Hamm - yeah, saw the bags that Long and Solid have, and was still looking for something padded. I know skateboards are a heck of a lot tougher than surfboards, but I've seen the way boards get tossed around occasionally over here in the islands. And a skateboard is a lot smaller and easier to toss.... (no offense to any skateboarding baggage handlers out there)

Hugh - as far as I can recall the cordura that I found online was the tough stuff - 1000 denier (think that's the word). It even came in colours, which is a rarity. Not only that, but I also recall that the company was a So. Cal company.... I tried to pull up the website but for some reason it wasn't coming up today. Think that's more due to my phone connection way out here in the sticks. That and the occasionally fluctuating electricity from the generator... (yep - I'm one of the many 'off-grid' people on the island, at least temporarily). The hard cases are still a killer idea, and I had forgotten about the gov't surplus.... How could I with all the military bases around the islands?? Oahu has by far the majority though, and most of the surplus action goes on over there - I'm on the wrong island. I'll have to check the small surplus store in Hilo town the next time I get the chance.... As always it's all about saving $ (well, most of the time at least - I'll probably eat my words/hat if I find something ultra cool). For the back of a truck you could probably make something pretty cool and functional just out of plywood, like Dave/Hamm was talking about a few posts back. I'm still stuck with the problem of having something that I can easily lug around an airport. I guess if all else fails I'll have to buy something, but by no means am I giving up yet....

ps - anybody have an industrial sewing machine they want to sell me for cheap??

ride on
waxfoot

 
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Travel Bags
On 8/31/2000 Hamm wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Longskate.com has thier own travel bag and Solidskate sells a Gravity bag that hold up to 2 54" boards. They're not padded but pretty nice
Dave

 
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travel bags
On 8/31/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Waxfoot,

Next time I am down in Orange County (this is a hint to you guys who live there) I will stop by the two big stores that sell commerical grade fabric over runs (they are off the 5 not too far from the old uniroyal plant) and see what type of price they have. Although 6.30 a yard doesn't sound too bad if it is the "ballistic" quality type.

My application wouldn't be for air travel, but rather to protect the decks during auto/truck travel. When I go out with my brother and my kids, we may have 10 boards banging against eachother.

There are some real nice cases built for electronic test equipment or musical gear. Big dollars for that stuff!

Don't forget the gov't surplus... the US military has always built high quality stuff. There may be something available from them. I'll keep my eyes open... HR

 
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and yet more travel....
On 8/30/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Hugh - I've sewn a few things in my time, mostly surfboard socks and covers for roof rack pads and stuff, and figure that I could probably pull out a decent travel bag if I could come up with the material. I found a couple of sources for Cordura, the cheapest being a minimum order of 10 yards for $63. Of course that's not including zippers and straps and the padding.... Would have to do some math to figure out how much material I would need to make one bag. I've emailed this one company called Jam-Pak (out of Santa Rosa I think www.jam-pak.com) twice, but they can't seem to be bothered to answer my emails. They make pretty much any kind of bag at what seems to be a reasonable price, but like I said, they haven't emailed me back to say how much a bag of my description would cost. In case I didn't mention before, the plan was for 50" x 12" x 8" (length,width,height). Check out the snowboard coffin bags at Destination Surf (www.destinationproducts.com) for a visual idea. I was hoping to make them cheaper than $100. I know that sometimes you end up spending just as much in materials as you would just buying their bag, but I get a sort of satisfaction from using something that I made myself - as I'm sure you get from your boards. The hard plastic shell type of case is a super idea as well, but I realistically realize that I don't have the tech or the $ to make it happen. Maybe Tony is onto the source. When I used to load trucks for UPS we used to get these kind of long hexagonal cases coming through for conventions of one sort or another - I think they were for projection screens or something. Of course I can't remember who made them. Again, I don't know if the whole idea is monetarily viable or not - I just thought it would be a good idea as when I flew back home from the mainland I had to put my boards in a cardboard box. I was kind of curious to find out how many people out there actually did decent amounts of air travel with their boards and if something like that would be worth it to them. I realize that it's a bit different over on the mainland - you can drive most everywhere you want to go. Over here, you want a change of scenery, you have to hop a plane.... (its a long swim between islands). I'll have to put some more research time into the project.

a hui ho
waxfoot

 
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travel bags
On 8/30/2000 tony wrote in from (63.226.nnn.nnn)

I hadn't thought about it till now but...I have a hardshell case for shipping photographic lighting equipment. Half is open like a large suitcase, other half is sectioned. It is made by the lowell lighting company. Although not cheap, they come in all shapes and sizes. Any professional photo shop could help out.

 
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shoes for andy
On 8/30/2000 Mike G wrote in from (64.7.nnn.nnn)

I think the best shoes for skating that are not too ugly and are comfortable and last forever are the etnies "raps". To bad i couldnt find another pair.

 
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snowboard travel bags
On 8/30/2000 todcar wrote in from (198.39.nnn.nnn)

should work fine. I have a 60" deck, 54" deck and 44" deck and I think I can fit all 3 in a big bag along with safety equipment.

 
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