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Topic All-Terrain Info
On 10/12/2001 TheRob wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

hey dillon, whats up? you riding an NDP now? how do you like it?
later,
rob

 
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On 10/11/2001 ATB RUSH wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

who here is from the bay area??im from fremont ca.hey JAKe dude let me know when u guys r going to go back to modesto area thing sounds sick!and i ride an npd and i am useing a friends outback

-DILLON

 
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On 10/9/2001 jake wrote in from (63.48.nnn.nnn)

for all people interested:
any central valley all-terrainers?
soem folks from the modesto area of cali.
me and some friends. are makign pretty frequent trips to the sickest downhill paradise. for longboarders too, the paved road through the hills is amazing.
we are going tomorrow wed. the 10th. if you want to come call before 3:00 at 634 2573 and ask for jake.

i would also like to organize a state wide event. just hnag out and party. with longboardes, mtn. boarders and dirtboarders. bbq, tailgate and ride.
all interested email me.

to wet your appetite let me descride the lay of the land.
there is a whole range of "mtns." or hills. a few hundred feet in altitude. many are long and sloping for beginners, or people who want a sweet long run. there are also a lot of long steep runs for the ballsies.
there is somethign for everyone. there are also a couple of half pipes and snake runs cut in the hills by erosion. and its all near the little town of patterson, ca. right off higway 5. its called del puerto canyon. and its sick. so people, contact with me info and advice on organizing an event. peace

 
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On 10/8/2001 hans wrote in from (24.94.nnn.nnn)

Jesse
re: Dirtsurfer

Thank you very much for answering all my questions in such detail. I think my experience would be very much like yours. I personally would probably try to find a way to override the "dead man's" brake mechanism, if that is possible. I came pretty close in ordering one - and I might still do it in the future - but for the moment I decided instead to order a custom board from "mad marc", check his site on www.windscooting.com, I think you will get a kick out of his pics and videos. One reason was I like to switch stance and be able to move my feet around, that's why I ordered it with a detachable steering column which eliminates the need for footstraps and I will have a hand activated drum brake attached to it. It will take some time till its ready and I will be the first in the US to get one of his boards. Once I have it I will report on its performance.

Regarding protective equipment I personally go to Sports Authority, they have a large selection in the inline skating section. I wish, though, somebody would carry a ready made slider glove; anybody knows whatever happened to the slider glove Cliff Coleman supposedly designed?

 
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On 10/8/2001 jesse wrote in from (64.130.nnn.nnn)

Hans:
regarding your email:
Dirtsurfer;

>How are the brakes working?

They work, overall. However: there are times when i am adjusting my back foot, which sits on the deadmans break (which prevents runaways), and during the adjustment it easily engages, which stops the board suddenly and sends me careening. I am getting used to NOT adjusting as i ride.

>Are they easily activated if, for example, you get out of control on a steep decent?

Basically, because the thing picks up speed SO fast on steep descents, I keep the 'shin' break engaged most of the ride--i'm still taking it conservatively, and have yet to let the thing haul out full speed, and then try to jam the break.

>How fast can you push it on the flats

That is tricky, and a slower learning curve than just cruising downhill. But man, cruising downhill on smoothe grassy slopes is the sweetest sensation. It really is a lot like surfing/carving.

>and can you pump it easily and at a much faster clip than a good slalom board?

Still getting the basic balance down, and have yet to be able to pump it, but on the included training video, it seems to show guys pumping it...

>Any idea what the smallest turning radius would be under ideal conditions, that is on a gentle, paved slope?

Still working that one out--i've gotten the turns progressivley tighter, but to really get them tight, you need to lean way in, and to do that, you need more and more speed. ie...i'm getting there slow and steady.

Question:
1. What would the readers suggest for protective wrist/elbow/knee gear? There are a lot of options out there, lizard skins, etc--what have folks found to be cost effective and efficient?

2. Also, suggestions for 5 meter kites? I'm getting ready to hook the board up and get hauling...rammed air vs. inflatables? What do the readers use?

 
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On 10/6/2001 rob k wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

i live in antioch(east-bay) and ride mountain boards. if you want to ride, drop me an e-mail. i ride terraboard/npd, and earthboard.
later,
rob

 
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On 10/6/2001 Gunnar W wrote in from (193.217.nnn.nnn)

Have anyone tryed a Grassboard, I wonder how it rides compared to a Dirtsurfer.

 
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On 10/5/2001 hans wrote in from (24.94.nnn.nnn)

Dirtsurfer;

Jesse, great that finally someone is reporting on his experience with the Dirtsurfer. Keep us informed how things are developing. How are the brakes working? Are they easily activated if, for example, you get out of control on a steep decent? How fast can you push it on the flats and can you pump it easily and at a much faster clip than a good slalom board? Any idea what the smallest turning radius would be under ideal conditions, that is on a gentle, paved slope?

 
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On 10/5/2001 jesse wrote in from (208.195.nnn.nnn)

Dirtsufer! The thing is amazing...I've just been learning the past month on the bunny hills around San francisco's parks, taken some good spills.

It is a pretty steep learning curve, but after the first 20 hours, i've learned to carve down progressively bigger hills, taking progressively larger turns. And the thing turns heads like crazy... True, the turning radius is nothing compared to a regular skateboard, but the fact is, the experience is a cross between surfing, snowboarding, biking, and skateboarding--and can be done anywhere there is a hill!

If anyone knows of any large hilly, grassy areas in the bay area, please let me know, and perhaps we'll hook up and go out. I am ready for the big hills.

 
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On 10/2/2001 Dirt Rider Extraordinaire wrote in from (207.174.nnn.nnn)

Have you guys ever heard of NPD landboards, MBS mountainboards or Terraboards?? check them out
www.mountainboardshop.com www.mountainboard.com www.terraboard.net

ride dirt

 
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On 9/29/2001 Timmy The Talking Toilet wrote in from (209.180.nnn.nnn)

Finally, finally, I got my 215 indies so I would quit rolling my board over when I make fast sharp carving turns without flipping the board over on me.

(sorry about the rambling, I'm just overcome with the joy of new stuff)

 
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On 9/27/2001 be bop wrote in from (199.35.nnn.nnn)

encinetes now has mtn.board /bmx park w/ tons of 5 ft jumps that start w/roll ins , dope ass step up .

 
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On 9/25/2001 hans wrote in from (24.94.nnn.nnn)

Glick84,

everytime I watch the video clips of the Dirtsurfer site I too am itching to get one. I had previously asked in the completes section if anybody has tried one but there was no response. The reason I have not added one to my collection so far is that it seems to have been designed primariy for speed and probably does not have the tight turning radius I would like to have for carving. I am instead thinking of getting mad marc's Kitescooter (www.windscoting.com) which seems to very versatile. But it would be very interesting to hear what your experience with the Dirtsurfer is once you get one.

 
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On 9/24/2001 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Thanks to Jack S I am now the proud owner of an old set of grass skis! I'll post up some pics... HR

 
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On 9/23/2001 meg wrote in from (209.240.nnn.nnn)

does anyone want to buy my xt dirt wheels, or ill trade for sumthin.

 
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On 9/23/2001 Glick84 wrote in from (128.104.nnn.nnn)

Has anyone seen this dirtsurfer thing? www.dirtsurfer.com It looks awesome, I'm thinkin about getting one, just wondering if anyone's tried it

-jon

 
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On 9/21/2001 alex wrote in from (64.69.nnn.nnn)

Hi I went to SF a couple of weeks ago and bought a set of xt wheels and randal trucks from the guys at purple skunk (great people, back in vancouver i got a used board from a local store (lebel) for free and I mounted them on the front and rear tail.
The wheel base is biger and the board feels really stable, I tryed on the weekend and Iworked very well.
I'm not so heavy so the board doesn't seem to have problems with the placement of the trucks.
The other thing I had to do was to cut the sides because I was getting some really bad wheel bite.

 
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On 9/20/2001 Timmy The Talking Toilet wrote in from (209.180.nnn.nnn)

I only have the XT dirt wheels, and have it mounted on a 36 inch single kicktail with no concave board. But I"m finally ordering a set of 215 indies so I don't flip the board over as often when making a hard turn. I still can't ollie the thing, but I met a kid that can do a kickflip with it.

Oh as for the bindings, I made my self a set of skyhooks out of aluminum, that look like the ones on the xt site, but they really don't fit that well, I think that I may just wind up ordering a set of plastic ones.

 
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On 9/20/2001 r.mendino wrote in from (208.30.nnn.nnn)

timmy - seen one? i got one. i remounted the trucks out on the nose and tail (low cg style) but the board snapped after a few weeks. remounted the trucks and wheels on a 40" flexdeck and it's been workin' good (though i need to come up with some bindings). granted, it's slow as molasses, but most downhill dirt trails are way steeper than asphalt streets so there's no problem picking up speed.
for $40 you can't go wrong, the fun quotient is definitely there.

r.

 
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On 9/19/2001 hc wrote in from (209.86.nnn.nnn)

was at GG park last sunday, and two guys on grass surfer showed up, took a five second test ride, feels very weird, kind of like bike surfing.

 
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On 9/19/2001 Timmy The Talking Toilet wrote in from (209.180.nnn.nnn)

I went to K-Mart to pick up some cheap 9mm FMJ ammo and found out that out of being pollitically correct (bad move too) they pulled all handgun ammo. So as I wandered my way back to the doors, I saw the skateboards, but the strange thing was that they are now selling "all terrain boards" which are just some generic kick flipper, with some knockoff wheels that look like the XT dirt wheels. Has anybody else seen these?

 
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On 9/18/2001 hans wrote in from (24.94.nnn.nnn)

hugh r, regarding the grasski; I never had the chance to try them and I always wondered why they never took off, was it because at the end of the day you had to wash and oil them. There was at least one ski resort in the East where they rented them in the summer. I am sure the present models have been greatly improved, maybe they don't require so much maintenance anymore, the best thing would be if you could also use them on dirt roads. I just typed in "grasski" on the Yahoo search engine and there are quite a number of sites and articles. Right now I am too busy to persue it but if you come up with a good product let us know.

 
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On 9/17/2001 joseph wrote in from (144.137.nnn.nnn)

what are earthboard prolite boards like? how do you stop with bushings?

 
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On 9/17/2001 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Back in the late 70's there was this ski shop where we would rent "grass ski's" They were around 3 feet long with some thing very similar to rubber tank tread on them.

I sure would love to have a set of those... hint hint hint if any one has some they want to sell.

Anyway, there was a pretty good grass hill at a park that you could drive to the top and get picked up at the bottom.

We would hit the low 20's but it sure felt faster! HR

 
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On 9/17/2001 JG wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

The craziest all terrain skateboarding I did was in the 1970's on 4 foot long downhill boards with Brewer Speedsters. 4 of us would catamerang on the two boards and get hauling- nearly 45mph. At teh Bottom of the hill there was no where to go but a traffic intersection or a grassy field. We would hit the grass at about 40 leaning way back on our boards and just tear up the turf. Bent a lot of axles doing that.

 
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