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On 5/27/1999
Ueli
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Hi Marc,
I'm using ACS651 slalom trucks. I don't know if you can get them where you live, but they are widely spread in Switzerland. I've got a truck review on them on my homepage:
http://beam.to/lonecore
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On 5/26/1999 rg
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Slalom rocks!! G forces. Rolling at high speed. Skating for the sake of rolling. Anyway, I need some info on how the G & S Leemo is for Slalom as well as Exkates and Jones trucks. Are R 2's too wide for slalom?
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On 5/25/1999
Tannis
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I can coraborate what Chris is saying here, he has scored me a set of Krypto and Hyper Stada's off of old skates and they are great wheels! Don't dismiss this idea, this is an economical way to set your longboard up and still have a quality ride. The Krypto's would be a good slalom wheel, while the Hyper's are a little harder, but great for sliding. Keep your eye out for these old skates, they are a great deal!
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On 5/25/1999
Chris
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A Note on Hyper Stradas (it's spelled with a d, not a t)
One of the best places to pick up Hyper Stradas, as well as Super Mundos (roughly the same wheel as Gravity Super G's) and Kryptonics Roadrunners, another tall, flat edged quad-skate wheel, is on old roller skates. You can often find good quality used quad skates for practically nothing at garage sales, swap meets, and thrift shops. Most people who skate these days want inline skates, so quad skates often go for five or ten dollars or less, even though they might have cost a couple hundred new. That means that you can get two sets of wheels (possibly with bearings), spare truck parts, and, if you can figure out how to get rid of the bolts that hold on the bases, a funky-ass pair of boots for five or ten bucks.
Here's an example, about three weeks ago, I bought a set of skates with Hyper Stradas with good bearings for $8 at a thrift shop. That's a buck a wheel, with bearings, can't beat that. Plus, you never know what you might find. My brother picked up a pair of skates with Bennett Hijacker hangers on them.
Just keep in mind tht these wheels come in different sizes and hardnesses, and they're not always marked. I have one set of Stradas that are about 90A. Good for sliding, but not for slalom.
Later,
Chris
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On 5/25/1999
Steve Cozens
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SLALOM !!! YES PLEASE.
I was very active in slalom comps back in the day ('70's)...I always wanted a Turner SummerSki, but my FibreFlex boards were perfect.
And I was placing at every contest I didn't DQ at. I finally traded away my FibreFlex Cutaway to be mounted at the SIMI Skatepark Wall of Boards.
My style has always been mostly slalom influenced, which in time brought me to create my own company, "Deplo" skateboards. The most recent shape
I've created is called the "Calamari", which is definitely a slalom type ride. At 40" you can bomb hills and pump your brains out at the same time.
Finally, there is growth in this discipline. I wonder why the "X-Games" haven't caught on yet? My guess is that REAL ROOTS skating goes beyond
the commercial aspects of the "X-Games"...
Look for my post in another section here on the NCDSA site for a "FUN" get-together during the "X-Games" in San Francisco in June.
We can set up cones...show off style...and dominate the Golden Gate Park for an afternoon.
Steve Cozens
Deplo Skateboards
http://www.netcom.com/~deplo
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On 5/25/1999 Marc
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Ueli,
what are you using for slalom trucks?
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On 5/25/1999
Ueli Niggli
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It is a great advantage to have a slalom board, but it's more important to have slalom trucks and soft, grippy wheels.
On the web, there are only few slalom sites:
http://beam.to/lonecore
http://www.nosewheelie.com
http://www.indiana.ch
http://boarderspoint.ch
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On 5/23/1999
Don O'Shei
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In the 70's I skated for a number of the top skateboard racing teams of the era, Fat City Racing, Santa Cruz Skateboards and Sims Skateboards. I had 3-4 Turners including one black and red full-nose that I still have (not for sale). While these boards were beautifully made they were good but not great racing boards. By far the best all around racing board ever made was the John Hutson Model graphite set up with Indy suspension trucks. For wheels we used RR4's, Hesters and OJs and the 4's and Hesters were often custom poured with the OJ urethane for greater grip.
Best regards,
Don
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On 5/22/1999 Glen
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Do you need a slalom board?
If you are looking into racing ...yes.
If you just want to have fun ...no.
The short wheelbase of most new style double kick boards would make it harder as would the rock hard wheels.
But a shorter G&Slike the Leemo or even the 38" pintail or some of the shorter Flexdecks would work fine for fun slalom. I use a 44" Santa Monica Airlines Custom with Seismic Trucks and 61mm Sector 9 dual durometers...not a race ready setup, except for the trucks, but I have a lot of fun with it.
The best way to "do" slalom is to just do it and have fun racing your friends. That's how the old days of La Costa started. A bunch of friends got together on a nice hill with some cones, chalk to mark a start and finish line, a stop watch and clip board to write down times. Everyone would pay a couple of bucks into the pool and who ever won, took the money.
skate for fun.
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On 5/22/1999 jl
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Do you need a slalom-board, to ride slalom
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On 5/21/1999
Chris
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Hi there...
well, here in europe, especially in zurich, switzerland, slalom
skateboarding is really coming! Check out our homepage, you'll
find pictures and an articles on slalomboarding there...
English page will be set up this weekend!!!
http://www.asphaltsurfing.ch
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On 5/20/1999 Glen
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Thanks for the link for the wheels.
I have a picture of John Hutson riding a Santa Cruz graphite loaded slalom board which had no cutaways, with Bennett Pro trucks with what looks like 1/4" risers, and Road Rider #4's. The Road Rider #4's were about 60mm and I think the Henry Hester's were 63mm. I could be wrong but I do know the Road Rider #6's were 68mm and were considered huge. Could be your wheels are too big ? When you're going faster you don't tend to crank turns as hard, maybe lack of speed? Don't know...I do know I want that Turner of yours though...
take it easy
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On 5/20/1999
marc
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Glen,
I got my Strata through a rollerskate (quads) on the web.
www.cheapskater.com. they were also able to track down the propper spacers for me. They have square edges.
I actually have a Truner full nose (It is NOT for sale), and even with risers, I get a lot of wheelbite on the nose. Did other full nose riders have this problem?
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On 5/18/1999 Glen
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The hard edge wheels work better for slalom because don't slide as easy as radial wheels do. The hard edges tend to catch the pavement better.
Turner ( of Turner Summer Ski ) had done all kinds of tests with Kryptonic to make custom slalom wheels back in the 70's.
Their wheel was much the same as the Hester Road Rider which came out after the Turner wheels. I don't think the Turner wheels ever made it to market...team issue only.
re: the new Road Riders....I have a set of the Red 70mm new ones on a longboard, I think they ride nicer than Krypto's and Sector 9's.
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On 5/18/1999 eggman
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Why is it important to have wheels with the hard edges like the old Road Rider 4? Speaking of Road Riders, the new ones are really nice. Super soft and sticky. Very fast too. They don't have the hard edges thought....
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On 5/17/1999 Glen
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Marc,
where can you find those wheels. I know the Formula 1's are available from Acme/Formula one dealers, but what about the others? Other things to look for in wheels are a sharp edge on inside and outside edges i.e. the old Henry Hester Road Riders or Road Rider #4's.
Ask for trucks, you can't beat Seismic for their quick response and "Spring" back to center.Seismics actually give enegy back after you compress them, unlike any truck using urethane bushings.
Any one out there making slalom boards that can live up to the Turners of yesteryear?
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On 5/17/1999 Marc
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Wheels -
from talking to diffenet people, the best slalom wheel made is still the old rolerskae wheel - Hyper Strata.
They come in 78a and in 60 and 65 mm. The core is made of a harder material. I have a pir of the smaller wheel and the do not slide!
Formula 1 is making a wheel that is based on the same compounds as super mundo, which is great for GS and Luge (72mm)called cloud series.
Roger, what are you using for your "stiff" deck.
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On 5/16/1999 Glen
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What is slalom?
it's just like in ski racing. You have
1. tight slalom ( cones mostly on the fall line, close together, loosen those trucks and hips, requires great timing and rythum) which is sometimes run head to head or against the clock.
2. giant slalom ( cones offset from the fall line furthur apart ) which is usually run against the clock and not head to head due to the offset cones and lack of wide streets to run on.
3. banked slalom ( cones placed on the sides of a drainage ditch type of run ) which was usually run at skateparks in the later 70's that had long banked runs. Marina Del Rey skatepark had a nice banked slalom run as did Pipeline.
Set up some cone or cans or chalk some dots down a hill, get some friends together with a stop watch and have a good time.
Glen
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On 5/15/1999
Robert
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What is Slalom?
Probably out of ignorance, I think of my style of skating as slalom. I learned to do it back in the neolithic, it's the only style I know, and I really enjoy it.
All I do is slalom down the hill, usually carving the whole street. I use the slope of the hill to control my speed, which is a lot of what I focus on -- keeping my speed up to a fast pace, but not so fast that I'm out of control. It takes concentration, at least for me, between that and watching for cars.
So is that slalom? Giant slalom? Freestyle slalom? Dunno.
What I do know is that the new torsion trucks are the absolute best for what I do. I have Kapus now, and I want to get some of the new eXkates. Even on my 54" board I can carve really tight turns -- much better than my 28" board with standard trucks -- and the feel is really fluid. The trucks have totally changed my deck preference too. With standard trucks I liked a flexing deck for the added fluidity and carving ability, but now I get that from the trucks so I'm into very solid decks that give me a tighter connection to the ground.
I'm looking for new wheels -- the stickier the better -- so if anybody knows anything please let me know. I use Kryptonics now, and they're great but I suspect there might be better out there.
BTW, if you live in NorCal, Santa Theresa county park in San Jose, CA has a great hill for this style of skating.
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On 5/14/1999 Casey
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do trucks have to very loose to be able to get speed while slaloming?
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On 5/14/1999
Lono
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Here here! I'm looking forward to seeing lots of activity on this section. I want to get into Giant Slalom, and would like to get info on locations, techniques, gear, events. I'm in Santa Cruz. Anyone in Santa Cruz of like mind and inclination? Is this great time to be alive or what!
- Lono
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On 5/13/1999 Glen
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Thanks for putting up the slalom section. I would love to see slalom make a come back. I was never a "racer" but I remember having to have my slalom board (a 27" Bahne with Bennett trucks and Road Rider #4's), my downhill board, my bank/park/pool board, etc. Kids now don't know what they're missing in owning a bunch of different boards.
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On 5/12/1999 freak
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your right Marc, but I did the short version. and I wasn´t around when slalom was a dicipline of it´s one. I´m born in the early eigthies so i´m just getting in to longboarding, but i skated since i was 6 so I´ve been araound a litle. : )
c ya!
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On 5/12/1999 marc
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yes, I have read the artice on slalom, but there are may things about board set up that have not been mentioned.
Are people canting their trucks? I have ridden boards where the the rear truck was canted back.
are pepole using a narrow or wide stances?
Slalom used to be an event on to itself, it cannot be wrapped up in one article.
If that was true, you probably also wrote an article on nascar that said, "turn left."
with better truning trucks coming out on the market, slalom may make a comeback, not like longbaords, but enought that people know it exists.
it is already gaining popularity in Europe.
so is anyone lese riding slalom out there as well?
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On 5/11/1999
webmaster
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Posts on slalom that predate this forum can be found on this site using our Search page. Use the keyword: SLALOM. This is one forum I hope becomes very popular!
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