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Dogtowns and Alvas
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On 8/21/2002 GBJ
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Steve in AZ, You could be right. I recall seeing pictures of Alva in the "other" skateboarding magazine of the day (can't remember the name) around the same time, riding a blank (aside from a bunch of hand drawn magic marker art) 10" board that was very similar in size and shape to the BullDog model. In fact, if I can put my hand on that particular issue, I'd be willing to bet the hand-drawn, magic marker art was a Dogtown cross by, or designed to look just like the art of Wes Humpston. From that evidence, I always assumed that it was a prototype Dogtown 10" board that actually got Tony Alva into the 10" wide board market. I now have a scanner at my house. If I can find the picture in question I'll scan it up and post it somehow.
10" Board Development - Honorable Mention... Lest we forget, Lonnie Toft was a very early innovator of wide, functionally shaped decks, and although he may not have been the first to bring a 10" deck into production, his influence is easily discernible in the Sims wideboard line (Bowman, Toft and Superply models, I believe) that also shortly followed the original Dogtown line
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10" wide gear
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On 8/21/2002
BoBo
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In late 78 I bought an Alva Splash model. It was 10x30 and I didn't really have trucks for it for a year after that. I ran Fultracks on it and got lots o laughs till I got a set of Megatrons. Talk about a rare deck, you never see an Alva splash for sale. I've been looking too!
This was late 78 early 79. My memory is not perfect about this.
B
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Stroke 'em
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On 8/21/2002
psYch0Lloyd
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Yeah, I'm afraid that those trucks are what dreams are made of. As soon as you realize what you've got, you wonder why you ever wanted them in the first place and then again you never want to let em go.
Stroker owner since 197?.
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Stroker
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On 8/21/2002
Dom
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All my life I wanted to get one set of those trucks.
I got them today, and now I don't know what to do with them!!! ( they are not for sale )
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First 10" Pigs...DT or ??
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On 8/21/2002
Steve in AZ
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I'm pretty sure you are right, GBJ, with maybe one exception. The first series of ALVA boards (Fade Name Tops)were 27 and 30" x 8", followed with the 10" model. I'm sure the Kryptonics model (foam core) in the wide body was not too far behind those.
-=S=-
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DT TP
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On 8/21/2002 Ricky
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Here's a thrashed out Triplane
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853111827
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Original Dogtowns
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On 8/20/2002
GBJ
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By the way, the original Dogtown line was first advertised in Skateboarder, in the August, 1978 issue. I was on a skating trip in Virginia Beach in the time, it was the week of my 16th birthday and to this day I can still recall the excitement of my initial reaction when I first saw that first Dogtown ad.
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Dogtown - Paul Constantineau Model
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On 8/20/2002 GBJ
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What you're looking at on that EBay auction is a Dogtown Paul Constantineau model, which (if I recall correctly) was one of the first three models offered to the public from Dogtown Skates. The three original models were the aforementioned PC Model, which was 8.25" wide, the Jim Muir "RedDog" Model (9" wide) and the Wes Humpston "BullDog" Model (10") wide. These weere released pretty early in the "Pig Revolution" as boards got very wide for the first time in skateboarding's history (excluding the occasional 8-wheeler and other oddball). Ten inches was VERY wide. I'm even wondering whether the BullDog Model might've been the first board to actually reach the ten inch mark?
Suffice it to say, the point is that a NOS TriPlane is worht ALOT of money!
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DT Triplane
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On 8/20/2002 Troy
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No.
What is that anyway??
And, Holy Sheesh that's a lot of money!!
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Troy's Dogtown
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On 8/20/2002 Kenny
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Is it similar to this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1848656646
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DT Triplane
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On 8/20/2002
Troy
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I have an old DT Triplane. NOS. Not a scratch.
I DON'T, repeat, DON'T want to sell it but am kind of interested in its worth.
Can someone (who really knows) give me an idea on its value. I know it must be worth quite a bit. But what that is I have'nt the foggiest.
Thanks.
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2x's
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On 8/20/2002 Skinny
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Check out my 2x8x6' "plank" (well, I did mill it down to 1X)
in the Pics forum.
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2x4
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On 8/19/2002
C-Money
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I never rode a 2x4, but if you check out Glen Darcy's "This is not skateboarding," the longboard slopestyle race, you'll see one steelwheelbob on his 2x4 with the metal rollerskate halves. It was beautiful to watch his whole run, just reeked of soul and style! Just watching him coax traction out of those wheels on a relatively steep hill was a hoot!
I did buy one of those 32'x9' pieces of laminated hardwood (can't remember if it was maple, but it was like 6 or 7 thin plys, rectangle with a kicktail) out of skateboarder magazine in 1978. I was living in central wisconsin at the time. I fashioned a great deck out of it, replete with flames and "dog town" cross graphic, hand drawn of course. I thrashed on a 10' high 4' wide quarter pipe I had build at the end of the driveway. Had ACS650s and kryptos. It was rad!
carl
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First on the scene
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On 8/19/2002 SSofS
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I statrted skating well before cut-to-size wood was commercially available.
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Made 'em and bought 'em
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On 8/19/2002 Duane
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I made my first board in about '74 and it was far better than a 2x4. My bro and I designed and made these for several years, solid oak board with beveled rails to lighten them up, came in about 30% lighetr than a Log-an earth ski. Made them up to 36", all emblazoned with the "Bevelite" screen print on the bottom. I'd pay mega-bux if someone could come up with one of the originals, we only kept f-ups for ourselves. Then on to birch ply boards, with block tails. Even though a little crude compared to the maple ply warp-tail boards that came out, the birch was lighter, snappier, and the block tail held your foot better. And it didn't tend to chip and shatter like a lot of the early maple boards. These were dubbed "V-Jam Skates", again I don't have any with the screen print. We also made some early, cut-away downhill boards (center beamers, truck pockets circa '78) in 48" and 60" that were definitely cool for the times, I'd take any of them down a serious hill right now. One nice thing about the home-mades: nobody stole them, which is more than I can say for my long-lost Rockit and Alva 10" boards.
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the 2x4
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On 8/19/2002 patio
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On 8/17/2002 Scabs wrote in from 66.21.xxx.xxx:
While I can`t recall what the actual size of the piece of wood was,
that's all I was askin'...was it an "actual 2x4", or "wood".
thanks for the answer yo!
On 8/16/2002 Scabs wrote in from 66.21.xxx.xxx:
I, like many of the same era, started on a 2 X 4 w/ roller skates nailed onto the bottom.
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Just Lucky I Guess
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On 8/19/2002
GBJ
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I guess I never knew how good I had it, with "state of the art" skateboards in and around my house from '66 on.
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2x4
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On 8/19/2002
gavin
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i never knew 2x4 could be such a contentiuos issue. the most memorable one i had(and i use 2x4 as a generic term, they were generally made out of any piece of wood found lying about), was made from some rollerskates that had a fixed hanger so could only go straight, until they got a bit of bend in and then slowly started going left of straight, and as they got worse, more left until a 180 was achievable. but that was it.
why using 2x4 until the mid 70's? parents refusing to buy is one thing, but availability another (this is the UK remember), the shops in my home town did'nt stock boards until 76 at the earliest, the newsagents did'nt have magazines, and so to a 10/11 year old who's purchasing habits were led by those two places the whole thing was virtualy invisible.
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2 X 4
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On 8/18/2002 Scabs
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Your post was clear Andy. The ones by TK, Patio were the pnes the doubted my experiances of past.
Skateboarding was long started before I got into it. It was just a matter of economics that forced us to make our own.
Now skimboarding was another thing. Living in the land of sun and rain....lots of rain, we`d take plywood "skimboards" and surf the puddles in the swales after a good toad drowner. This was definately way before production skimboards...had to be there...
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Homemade boards
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On 8/18/2002
GBJ
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Scabs, I wasn't talking about you and I believe I made that very clear at the beginning of my post. I have a sense that most of the people on this site that say they used a 2x4 w/ roller skates, probably did. The people who frequent this site have already distinguished themselves as having a true, dedicated, and probably a lifelong commitment to skateboarding that very well may have started on a 2x4. What I was talking about was a phenomema about 15 years ago, when it seemed like every adult aged person who thought that it was cool that we (other adult aged persons) were still skating, would speak up with the ol' 2x4 story. It only seemed that, if as many people were riding 2x4s as were speaking up and claiming they did, we figured that 2x4 skating would've had to be about twice as popular as Little League Baseball and Boy's Club Football combined!
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scrap wood locomotion
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On 8/17/2002
Chuck
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Scabs wrote: "The skates were the kind that had a key to adjust the size"...
Would that be the mythical "skee-kee"?
I posted this before...my first longboard was a water ski. Leftover Chicagos and Stokers gave it the go...
I *DID* use a 2x4 to make a sit-down / lay-down board. About 5 or 6 feet long, a piece of plywood for your butt, and a piece of broomstick on the front, either for your feet if sitting, or your hands if lying down (we went face-first). Must have been something on the back for feet when lying down, can't remember what. Heck, if only we had hills and I had though to ride it feet-first lying down I'd have invented the luge. Instead we just towed each other behind bikes, or hitched a ride from the ice cream man (can you imagine anyone letting kids do that today?). That was some fun...
My first (and only, so far) 8-wheeler was a piece of plywood...purely as an experimental device to try out the form. Again, it was Chicagos and Stokers (as was the 2 x 4 "luge")...man, we had a lot of extra Chicagos and Stokers lying around in those days.
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The 2 X 4
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On 8/17/2002 Scabs
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While I can`t recall what the actual size of the piece of wood was, mt first skateboard actually came from my okder sisters skates. She is older than me by ten years. The skates were the kund that had a key to adjust the size. My older brother was the one who made the skateboards (2) from the pair of skates.
Coming from a family of 6 kids, real skateboards were not something we even dreamed about. My first production deck came from monies I earned cutting lawns. Now why someone would question about home made skateboards, I don`t know? It was a xommon practice in the 60`s.
And I didn`t say I invented skateboards, heck, it was my brother that did :-)
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Dogtown deck,GullWings(split),65mm Kryptonics
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On 8/17/2002
D.J. Waterman
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Just found my old board at moms after 22yrs of storage.
Skateboarding was our "West Coast" connection.
We "pooled" and "piped" just like the west coast boys...
......so we though huh?
Thanks all you West Coast skaters.......missin' those days!
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Home Wood
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On 8/17/2002 PSR
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I didn't use 2x4's,as I saved the softwood stuff for Rubberband Guns(Ar-15 was really a rubberband gun before the army made it out of metal.The carry/handle-site thingie is proof enough!).Hardwood,specifically the Rock Maple Doorjambs from a nearby farmhouse,were perfect for shaping into decks for my Chicagos and Stokers. BTW,the door center panels were my first longboard('73 or so) at 36" (hey,at 7 yrs. old,that's BIG),and planks from the old barn made my first 6' lay-down board (Cal Slaloms/Ampul Alum. core slicks)in sixth grade. Never used Rollerskate stuff until '80-'81,when the 68mm + 72mm krypto Projects came out,oh,and Gyros(didn't know those were Quad wheels then).My dad let use the powertools WAY too young,and ran out of construction-project wood because of it!
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True longboard
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On 8/17/2002 Older than you longboarder
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The true longboard 2x4 by 5ft been there done that
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